The concept of stochastic variable (chance or luck) does in fact exist - but not the way we use the concepts we normally call chance or luck - because you cannot have the luck if you do not go to the casino and bet there... now can you? — Iris0
In this way actually reason and luck play an interesting double role. also reason is seen as a way to escape Ananke, to 'shape one's destiny'. Reason was actually man's destiny according to Aristotle, the source of its actualisation. Machiavelli thought that by using reason you could play with fate and jump from one thread of fate to another, keeping some sort of control. The difference between reason and luck is that one (reason) believes in self efficacy, the possibility of control and the other (luck) believes that one's destiny depends on outside intervention. This reason, the ability of control, or agency, is currently in twilight. Not that I think it should be though. The casino is the refuge for the unreasonable, both the man of reason and the man of luck shoot for the stars, but they believe in different weapons. — Tobias
Yes, of course, Feyerabend's rebut to Popper. To wit: "Name the greatest of all inventors. Accident." ~Mark Twain — 180 Proof
Necessity is the mother of all inventions. — proverb
The classic wisdom-of-the-crowds finding involves point estimation of a continuous quantity. At a 1906 country fair in Plymouth, 800 people participated in a contest to estimate the weight of a slaughtered and dressed ox. Statistician Francis Galton observed that the median guess, 1207 pounds, was accurate within 1% of the true weight of 1198 pounds — Wikipedia
"Mysteries" always beg questions and never answer them. Questions which can only be satisfied by "mysteries" are pseudo. "Faith in mysteries" is a gateway drug. — 180 Proof
There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy. — Hamlet
so rather than luck or chance it is the human will I would say that initiate and gives the situations its content or opportunity. — Iris0
Read Against Method, re: "context of discovery" in contrast to, or distinct from, the context of justification. — 180 Proof
yes - but without any doubt - if and only if - you actually go (an act of will) you have the chance to win or lose - if you do not go (also an act of will) you can never ever never win nor lose. — Iris0
When you say, 'in the end it is will', than you take a turn in the history of philosophy, will is opposed to reason, as Schopenhauer was opposed to Hegel. I do not disagree with you there. However, then the question would be what motivates this 'force of will'. Is it free decision making? That I doubt for the reasons laid out above, but other than that, there are many candidates, will to power, drive, love... — Tobias
And I fully agree with you on this - this is why I said that "initiate and gives the situations its content or opportunity".
I think that sometimes my english fails when I try to convey a thought properly...and now I marked where the emphasis is in that line of thought... — Iris0
But they are rarely skeptical of the "reason" they have replaced it with. — Foghorn
Skepticism (American and Canadian English) or scepticism (British, Irish, Australian, and New Zealand English) is generally a questioning attitude or doubt towards one or more putative instances of knowledge which are asserted to be mere belief or dogma. — Wikipedia
Reason is a certain way of seeing the world — Tobias
You've picked up the scent. Magnifique! So, are you going to follow it or not or are you already on the trail? — TheMadFool
Are you a condescending prick or merely masking your own insecurity? — Tobias
But would you care to explain what you mean? — Tobias
Reason is a certain way of seeing the world — Tobias
As for myself, I'm firing random shots, hoping I might hit something. A few interesting results (see my reply to 180 Proof) but nothing really substantive. As for myself, I'm firing random shots, hoping I might hit something. A few interesting results (see my reply to 180 Proof) but nothing really substantive. — TheMadFool
Alludes to "other ways" of seeing the world. I thought you had something specific in mind, that's all. — TheMadFool
I think irrespective of the light of reason, that we are storytelling beings. Now that you prod me a bit, that other way of seeing might relate to the meaning which we invest in the word. Those are not 'reasonable', in the sense that they are disinterested an 'objective'. — Tobias
Summer Solstice is upon us, Fool. Days of reason get shorter from here on, with longer nights to leisurely loiter looking up at other stars. Remember, though, even at night the sun still shines brightly, so bright in fact that by its invisible light we're able to see in the dark, even the dim twinkling of impossibly distant, long dead stars... :fire: — 180 Proof
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." ~F.N.I'm daydreaming aren't I? :chin: — TheMadFool
"And those who were seen dancing were thought to be insane by those who could not hear the music." ~F.N. — 180 Proof
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