2.Er, no. I am in the actual world claiming that in the actual world no true proposition is also false. — Bartricks
3.I claim that it is 'possible' - metaphysically possible, not epistemically possible - for true propositions also to be false. — Bartricks
That does not mean that I am asserting that any actually true proposition is also false. — Bartricks
My statement is maintained by number 2. There is no rational qualification that removes the contradictory nature of claiming true and false are compatible values. Maybe you could demonstrate dividing by zero when you get done failing to defend your position.You are in the actual world claiming there is an instance contradictions are true. — Cheshire
You seem to be operating under the notion that people who beieve in God have arrived at belief in God or at claims about God via an abstract logical reasoning (or even by empirical investigation), in a bottom-up manner, so to speak.
— baker
Oh, not at all. — Banno
Rather, if the notion of god leads to inconsistencies, then either, the notion of god cannot be instantiated (atheism)or the notion of god needs to be reconsidered. — Banno
Until the diverse preachers indoctrinators proselytizers chill out, they should expect others asking them to justify their claims. In case they impose their faiths on others, politics, have their faiths interfere in other peoples' lives, whatever social matters, etc, then they should expect all the more. — jorndoe
You don't have an argument, do you? — Bartricks
I have demonstrated that the view that for some proposition A, A is both true and false, is a consequence of your view that the law of noncontradiction does not apply in some possible worlds. Reject noncontradiction in any possible world, and you reject it for every possible world. — Banno
I say that it is possible for the law of non contradiction to be false, and all you can do is insist that means I think it is actually false. — Bartricks
Your insistence on obfuscation and denial count against this.but I can reason well. — Bartricks
This is advice you might do well to follow.Gregory Focus on the argument and not the arguer. — Bartricks
Is that a necessary truth?That's why there are no necessary truths, just contingent ones. — Bartricks
How do you distinguish a possible from an impossible world? — charles ferraro
↪Bartricks You are claiming impossible things become possible in a metaphysical framework. Some do; the idea of unicorns existing, does exist. The idea of true/false propositions is incoherent in every case. Proceed with the zero division demo. — Cheshire
That's not a reasonable reply.↪Cheshire Gibberish. — Bartricks
How to arrive at certainty about God? — baker
...a matter of divine revelation. — baker
Why would anyone trust ancient religious texts when they are just human writings and contradict each other? — Gregory
Acknowledge three instances of God. The God in children's stories. The God of theistic experience. Perhaps an empty space for a speculative God that emerges as a collective conscious of matter until proven unreasonable. That's the direction I was thinking of going.How do we explain ourselves now? — frank
Prior to the advent of non-Euclidean geometries, couldn't it have been claimed, with all sincerity, that there was no possible world wherein, or no conceivable circumstances whereby, two parallel lines would intersect, as this would have "obviously" constituted a blatant violation of Euclid's parallel postulate? — charles ferraro
Take a look at the latest LLPthread on abortion. The second post - by Bartricks, as it turns out - invokes theistic notions of soul. — Banno
Take a look at the latest thread on abortion. The second post - by Bartricks, as it turns out - invokes theistic notions of soul.
Here's the rub; the assumed link between god and what is we ought do. This is what must be broken. — Banno
You're too sensitive here, — Hanover
I don't actually disagree, so much as puzzle over this mode of expression. The way "truth" is being used here is not the way it is used in, fir instance, "It is true that 1+2=3".the most important truths we learn are through fiction — Hanover
don't actually disagree, so much as puzzle over this mode of expression. The way "truth" is being used here is not the way it is used in, fir instance, "It is true that 1+2=3". — Banno
A being that necessarily exists cannot coherently be thought not to exist. And so God, as the unsurpassably perfect being, must have necessary existence—and therefore must exist. — Tom Storm
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