We need to dispel this notion of a tyrannical sky daddy if humanity is going to progress. The masses cling to this idea of eternal salvation and this myth stunts psychological growth and prohibits humanity from realizing its destiny. — K Turner
The question is never about the "right to believe" but whether or not "belief in god/s" is rationally warranted. Philosophical discussions and arguments on this point ard not "persecution or condemnation"; if a "believer" feels merely examining her "god/s-belief" is threatening, then she ought not to engage in such discussions. Mostly I find that, observing new thread postings here on TPF in the last year or so as a handy sample, bible/woo-thumpers often proselytizing their faux-grievances and freethinkers usually just responding forcefully – not evangelically – to these evidence-free and sanctimonious provocations.Every person has a right to believe what they want without persecution or condemnation. — SteveMinjares
heists also have to agree on the fact, that they simply use religion as a way to find security and happiness, and shouldn't try to prove that Gods exist, as it is most likely false anyways. — Kinglord1090
But won't the majority turn to more materialism and consumerism to fill the void of existential angst and meaninglessness without some belief in something more than material existence?We need to dispel this notion of a tyrannical sky daddy if humanity is going to progress. The masses cling to this idea of eternal salvation and this myth stunts psychological growth and prohibits humanity from realizing its destiny. — K Turner
Some atheists and some theists are content with themselves. Others feel a push to convince other's to believe as they do. I would guess out of a subconscious insecurity that maybe they are wrong, and the more they can convince others to believe as they do, the more they themselves will believe. I know I've been in that state of mind. I'm probably in it now. Anyway, it's another part of human nature. Fighting against the maladies of human nature usually serve to further irritate them. It's easier to light a candle than than curse the darkness? Maybe after one has managed to refrain oneself from cursing the darkness, which is hard.But why do we care how others pursue happiness. — SteveMinjares
It's a free public service. Adults running around believing characters in children's stories are real has slowed down social progress. And if there is an actual God, then these lies and magical thoughts are a distraction. Some people experienced a great deal of intellectual freedom once released from religious thought patterns, so it is a giving back for some people.What is the point? — SteveMinjares
It's very hard to convince someone to change views without first building rapport and trust. This is why first Steel Manning the other's view, then offering an argument against it, politely, will on average work better than characterizing the other's point of view in the worst possible light before arguing against it.Adults running around believing characters in children's stories are real has slowed down social progress — Cheshire
I believe in God and think that most beliefs are based on a literal children's story character. They built an ark in Tennessee. I didn't make them build an ark, so I'm not accepting blame for obvious foolishness.We have to be an example of discipline and thoughtfulness if we want others to also employ discipline and thoughtfulness. — Yohan
Adults running around believing characters in children's stories are real has slowed down social progress. — Cheshire
I think your uncomfortable with the source of your beliefs. I think you can do better.It sounds more like a dictatorship than being opened mind to me. This type of ideology is border line of Nazism and how if we don’t think like you than they need to be brainwashed or removed from society. — SteveMinjares
I think your uncomfortable with the source of your beliefs. I think you can do better. — Cheshire
I think 'he' is real and misrepresented by childish interpretations. Stories are meant to notify us of the existence of God, but not to describe things in a real sense. Religion wants to inject itself into Cosmology, Evolution, secular laws all in order to maintain the world as taught to children for entertainment in many cases.Always preaching about truth but nothing to back up your testimony. If your going to tell me that he is not real show me the proof. — SteveMinjares
What is the point? — SteveMinjares
This type of ideology is border line of Nazism and how if we don’t think like you than they need to be brainwashed or removed from society. — SteveMinjares
need for political correctness when this topic is discussed — SteveMinjares
They fancy themselves victims. He may have a great deal of social networking that relies on it. You can't take a belief away from some one that knows it undeniably, so the fact he's threaten suggest a pretender.He said in the OP he is Christian because it gives him tingles. That's building your house on sand if there ever was such a thing — Gregory
The trophy for fastest slide into accusations of Nazism when faced with differing points of view just getting your name etched on it, be with you in a moment. — Kenosha Kid
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