We should not gather it all up when nature is doing it for us for free. She's been doing exactly that for millions of years. All that sun gathered up for photosynthesis, converted to protein steaks so we can sit around, burp, fart, fuck, craft, laugh, dance, science, innovate, and generally enjoy a garden Eden paradise. We have the technology now to make everyone live like kings, without all the negatives of tooth and claw that our forefathers had to deal with. The problem is, too many of us. That's on us. Everything we want is there for the asking. We are not as bright as we think we are when we think that we must continue to do what got us where we are because it worked so far. Edjumacations is what we need. Fewer, smarter, wiser people. — James Riley
Over-population is not a thing. The misapplication of technology is a thing. If we applied the right technologies the world could easily sustain 8 billion people. We are 8 billion people. Thus, we need to apply the technologies necessary to sustain such numbers. Simple logic! — counterpunch
You are wrong. Over-population is a thing. — James Riley
No, it's really not a thing. It's morally repugnant to consider people surplus; particularly given that, scientifically and technologically speaking, no-one need have a carbon footprint. Given a scientifically advised application of technology, starting with magma energy technology, to power carbon capture, desalination, irrigation and recycling, 10bn people can live well, and sustainably. — counterpunch
I can't explain why again, because I tried twice. Then again, they say third time's a charm. — counterpunch
If you still don't get it, there's no need to contradict me again. — counterpunch
Over population is a real and horrible thing. — James Riley
Cool, but if you break it down by country, you can see fertility rate vs CO2 footprint. — frank
And getting worse. But really because of the greed of only a few countries. Otherwise we could sustain our population for a while.
Still, to outright say "it's not a thing" is just more buffoonery. Much like the super-discovery of magma energy by an internet troll. — Xtrix
Cool, but if you break it down by country, you can see fertility rate vs CO2 footprint.
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We are 8 billion people. Thus, we need to apply the technologies necessary to sustain such numbers. Simple logic!
Over population is a real and horrible thing. It is morally repugnant and patently arrogant to think otherwise. All the clap-trap about what could be, but is not, is the proof of it. — James Riley
"anyway i think an apt way to think about climate change is that there are 'no non-radical futures.' either we change everything or the earth changes everything for us. anyone selling you 'realistic' incremental change is performing the work of charlatans and denialists." roshan — James Riley
The geothermal claims were vague. References to magma are confusing with respect to geothermal energy. I'll remind everyone of the operating temperatures of drilling equipment and what happens when you open up a hole to something under tremendous pressure. — Benkei
There really isn't though, and herein lies the point. We'd have to cover an area of 225,000 square miles with solar panels to meet current global energy demand. Sunlight is spread over a large area, and we cannot physically gather energy from the entire surface of the earth. But we could extract enough magma energy to meet and exceed current global energy demand because magma is a concentrated, high grade source of clean energy, and there's a lot of it. — counterpunch
Whether you are right, (you are not right) or wrong - we are close to an impasse of direct and repeated contradiction. I can't explain why again, because I tried twice. Then again, they say third time's a charm. — counterpunch
Glad you realise you're an idiot then. — Benkei
The geothermal claims were vague. References to magma are confusing with respect to geothermal energy. I'll remind everyone of the operating temperatures of drilling equipment and what happens when you open up a hole to something under tremendous pressure. — Benkei
You keep repeating this number as if it's some sort of problem for solar energy. Your 225 000 square miles is about 580 000 square kilometres. Surface area of earth is 510 000 000 square kilometres. — boethius
Furthermore, by reducing and reversing large scale infrastructure (that not only occupies a lot of land in itself, such as those 20 lane highways, but also divides the ecosystem making it less efficient), would actually be a net-positive in terms of land bio efficiency (the ecosystems being the primary value of land). — boethius
It is kind of frustrating though, after repeatedly talking about drilling "close to magma chambers and subduction zones" to have you say I propose drilling into a magma chamber under pressure. Also, the melting point of carbon steel drilling equipment is around 1500 degrees centigrade; so drilling rock at 700'C is not going to melt the drill. — counterpunch
Here's 157 degrees celsius, our current record for drilling at high temperatures: — Benkei
And yeah, great fucking idea to drill close to areas proven to be under pressure (there are volcanoes) and fuck around with the structural integrity of the rock above it. And while we're at it, let's add water! That will definitely go well. — Benkei
You want to murder most of the population of earth and you call me unrealistic because I want to drill to harness magma energy? — counterpunch
I asked how you plan to accomplish this mega-genocide, and you've got nothing. — counterpunch
Limitless clean energy from magma is a radical future; and one that offers hope. — counterpunch
Is there ANYONE out there who still doesn't consider this the issue of our times? — Xtrix
I must be too stupid to understand why a big ball of molten rock - 4000 miles deep and 26,000 miles around, isn't a viable source of energy — counterpunch
Indeed. Despite it being explained to you over and over again. I guess some people just need to believe they have a secret that solves the world's problems, despite knowing next to nothing about it. Oh well. — Xtrix
I'm beginning to see why people think you are flakey. I didn't say anything about murder. I didn't say you were unrealistic. I don't want to engage with you any more. — James Riley
We should put the pyramid back right side up and have about 500k to 1m people on the planet... — James Riley
I didn't say anything about murder. — James Riley
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