what we call emotion. is no more or less voluntary than thinking — Joshs
Are you not your body? So be it. You can always pretend and say you are not your body, but you will forever be unable to reveal your true self, in any case. — NOS4A2
My hand is under the "jurisdiction of biology" and I have control of it. So is my spleen, and I have no control. And so is my heart rate and.blood pressure, and I have a degree of control.
"Jurisdiction of biology" does not seem to be the relevant distinction here — hypericin
This is utterly at odds with everyday experience. We can say to ourselves, "I will now think about tomorrow's meeting", and then think about tomorrow's meeting. We generally cannot say "I will now be happy" and be happy. — hypericin
But then, your post doesn't really state any reasoning or argument — skyblack
this claim."perhaps proved" — skyblack
But then, your post doesn't really state any reasoning or argument
— skyblack
It does, if you weren't so wrapped up in your own variety of idiocy you might see it.
I'll try once more:
You claim:
"Emotions are involuntary since they are under the jurisdiction of biology."
Your argument seems to be:
If X is "under the jurisdiction of biology" (whatever this means), X is involuntary.
Emotions are "under the jurisdiction of biology"
Therefore emotions are involuntary.
I presented three bodily functions, all of which presumably fall under "the jurisdiction of biology":
Motion of the hand: High degree of volitional control.
Blood pressure, or to use a more obvious example, breathing: patrial and limited volitional control
Secretion of the spleen: no volitional control.
Demonstrating that the relationship you propose is false. There is no apparent relation at all between "the jurisdiction of biology" and degree of volition.
BTW I read the post where you
"perhaps proved"
— skyblack
this claim. — hypericin
I know you are but what am I?
— skyblack
Well played, sir! — hypericin
↪Joshs You are confusing the issue .
Your boss barks at you, "think about tomorrows meeting!". You can obey if you choose, because you have at least has a high degree of voluntary control over your thoughts.
Your boss barks, "now be happy!". While you might be so already, you generally cannot choose to obey this command, since emotional state is generally involuntary. — hypericin
But even in saying this much about the choice to think something, we are already presupposing that one is motivated to think a thought. We say that to be voluntary, a thought must come when we want it to come. — Joshs
I don't know what I'm talking about, or really much of anything. Rather than dig myself a deeper hole, I will quit while I'm behind. I apologize for my presumption and arrogance: I'm still learning. With diligence, some day I might be a better and wiser person. — skyblack
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