• frank
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    It's just a power play. You can click the reply arrow to signal who you're talking to.
  • Gregory
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    Every belief has tortured it's enemies. Religion though is the most widespread psychological disease in the world. It obviously is not rational to ask about something higher or beyond physical reality. Religion is effeminate narcissism
  • Banno
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    ...effeminate...Gregory

    Oddly sexist.
  • frank
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    Religion is effeminate narcissismGregory

    Is ”effeminate" an insult here?
  • Gregory
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    Let me clarify then. As Bede Griffin wrote, finding your deeper feminine side is what religion is about. Spirituality can be good and reading Greek classics on their beliefs can be enlightening for someone. But when this becomes religion it devours you individually in the abyss of "God". Christians even pretend to eat Jesus in a quasi sexual act of love wherein they become the bride of Christ. If you are becoming the bride of God then you have religion. And that's not a good thing whether you are male or female
  • frank
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    Yea they definitely would have burned you at the stake.
  • Jan Ardena
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    Hey Frank.
    Where is the reply button?

    It's just a power play.

    Interesting.
    But what does it have to do with God?
  • Banno
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    finding your deeper feminine side is what religion is about.Gregory

    Do you think Bin Laden would agree?
  • Gregory
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    Click the three dots at the bottom of a post. The reply button appears. If you scroll over a sentence or paragraph you can click "quote" too as it appears
  • Gregory
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    He was a power monger
  • frank
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    If you want to reply to someone, push the three dots below their post. Then push the arrow. Their name should pop up in your edit box.

    Did you want to talk about God?
  • Banno
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    He was a power mongerGregory

    A feminine power monger?
  • Gregory
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    Feminine means passive. Not that all females are or should. Thats just how people process this. Religious people think they are purified because they become passive to an all powerful deity. It doesn't make sense for man to be masculine towards God. That is what Job is about. Best not to be religious
  • Banno
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    Feminine means passive.Gregory

    No, it doesn't. If you meant passive, why not say passive, instead of the implicitly sexist language you chose?

    Actually, I would have used "submissive"; a taunt to Islam.
  • Gregory
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    There is a sexual element to it. Most religions have called the highest god a "He" for a reason, which is that piety is making you know God as Father and Husband. That how most traditional religion are
  • Banno
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    Most religions have called the highest god a "He" for a reason, which is that piety is making you know God as Father and Husband.Gregory

    Historical patriarchy, which your comment reinforced.

    Submissive would have been a better choice.
  • Gregory
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    Effeminate means a perversion of the feminine, but females are generally more submissive to men than the other way around. But I imagine you think that's bad? Anyway it doesn't take away from the potency of what I said or is that a bad word too?
  • Gregory
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    Try highlighting a sentence by scrolling over it and then click the quote button that appears. Then you'll be all ready for this forum
  • Jan Ardena
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    Did you want to talk about God?frank

    I thought the thread was about God.
    But yeah, I would like to talk about God if anyone is interested.
    I take it the majority here are atheist
    /agnostic?
  • frank
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    thought the thread was about God.
    But yeah, I would like to talk about God if anyone is interested.
    Jan Ardena

    It's about necessity as it relates to divinity. You can start a thread about God if you want. Just make it philosophical. ”Religion bad” is not philosophy.
  • baker
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    A feminine power monger?Banno

    Clearly, you have not met many women.
  • baker
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    You're letting yourself be dragged onto their turf, exactly what I warned against.
    — baker

    How do you figure?
    jorndoe

    Because you bring in biblical references, thus moving the discussion onto their turf.
  • baker
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    But He exists in the same way that someone can account for hearing that tree fall in the forest, either by being present, scientific analysis, or common sense.Jan Ardena
    Which per se doesn't suffice for religious membership, and God belief without religious membership is worthless.
  • Gregory
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    People are social and so do share spiritual ideas. But does your logic imply a new religion cannot start? Every religion was once new
  • Jan Ardena
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    Which per se doesn't suffice for religious membership, and God belief without religious membership is worthless.baker

    “Religion” and “theism” aren’t necessarily connected, anymore than formal education and living a materially successful life.
    Religion is, at it pure core, education for the spirit-soul aspect of our being. It can get you to the point of self-realisation quicker, in general, than following your own path.
  • baker
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    Not my problem. The religious should get their act together and fight their own wars amongst themselves for supremacy, before they go out and pester those who are not religious.
  • baker
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    So are you a functional member of a religious community?
  • Jan Ardena
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    It's about necessity as it relates to divinity. You can start a thread about God if you want. Just make it philosophical. ”Religion bad” is not philosophy.frank

    Good religious knowledge is superior to philosophical banter IMO. But I get your point. :smile:
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