This approach typically involves eschewing philosophical "theories" in favor of close attention to the details of the use of everyday "ordinary" language." — Chaz
First, words are our tools, and, as a minimum, we should use clean tools: we should know what we mean and what we do not, and we must forearm ourselves against the traps that language sets us. Secondly, words are not (except in their own little corner) facts or things: we need therefore to prise them off the world, to hold them apart from and against it, so that we can realize their inadequacies and arbitrariness, and can re-look at the world without blinkers. Thirdly, and more hopefully, our common stock of words embodies all the distinctions men have found worth drawing, and the connexions they have found worth making, in the lifetimes of many generations: these surely are likely to be more sound, since they have stood up to the long test of the survival of the fittest, and more subtle, at least in all ordinary and reasonably practical matters, than any that you or I are likely to think up in our arm-chairs of an afternoon—the most favoured alternative method. (Austin, J. L. “A Plea for Excuses: The Presidential Address”, Proceedings of the Aristotelian Society, 1957: 181–182)
This approach typically involves eschewing philosophical "theories" in favor of close attention to the details of the use of everyday "ordinary" language." — Chaz
What are the "Ordinary Language Philosophy" solutions to common philosophical problems? — Chaz
Wittgenstein's basic idea was that there is no general solution to issues other than the custom of the community. — Hanover
From Wikipedia: — Chaz
Oh please for all that is good in the world save me from philosophical summaries. — Antony Nickles
Thanks for providing an example of your point:A knee-jerk, superficial, three-sentence {ED: or shorter} takeaway can't be anything but misleading. — Antony Nickles
OLP is not about knowledge or being told anything; it's about texts, and going through a process; answering the questions, seeing for yourself. — Antony Nickles
Thanks for providing an example of your point: — god must be atheist
If we follow the late Wittgenstein's maxim that the meaning of a word (or of a sentence) is its use in a particular language game, then all that matters is that everybody understands what the phrase means in the context of ordinary life activities, and have no need of analyzing the logical structure of the phrase to do so. — Amalac
If we follow the late Wittgenstein's maxim that the meaning of a word (or of a sentence) is its use in a particular language game — Amalac
Thanks for writing the above, but I actually don't see how it relates to our argument. My position is that a summary may be a good starting point while not being (or else being) a good summary at all, of philosophical (other other types) of enquiry for the otherwise uninitiated. Your counter point was to decry three-sentence or shorter garment label descriptions (so to speak) of any philosophical trend, particularly the trend of ordinary language philosophy. — god must be atheist
It's a mode of critique more than a set of solutions. It's basic tenet might be "cut the bullshit". — Banno
Thus starting with a summary reduces philosophy to a set of answers people judge and regurgitate or dismiss; it trivializes the point of going through the process of being changed by reading. — Antony Nickles
It's a mode of critique more than a set of solutions. It's basic tenet might be "cut the bullshit". — Banno
Carnap devoted an essay on the impossibility of metaphysics, it had a strong flavor of "ordinary language philosophy". But it's an open question as to if Carnap succeeded in showing that metaphysics is nonsense. — Manuel
referring is an act people do, it's not something that a word does. — Manuel
That can be an ordinary language philosophy solution to a problem. But there's bound to be disagreements. — Manuel
Critiques are solutions too. Inasmuch as solutions can be found. In the sense that 5 <> 6 is a solution much like 5=5 is a solution.
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After all, solutions point to a set that satisfy the criteria in question — god must be atheist
I wonder if you could provide a simple, tangible example. Not a complicated one at all. A simple one. How a OLP uncovers criteria that makes us satisfied (in what sense satisfied?).OLP does not point to a set that satisfies (and, again, notice the skeptical fear of inconclusiveness); it uncovers the criteria of how we even are satisfied (here), or not. — Antony Nickles
I see, you did not take my advice on how NOT to explain things with negatives - how not to explain a thing by saying what it is not. You used two negatives with one blurred, muddled, ineffectual, vague positive claim. So... I don't know your point, until you state it in oridnary language. Simple, ordinary, common language. You seem to be the worse user and disciple of the very thing you advocate. You advocate ordinary langauge; and you use vague concpets expressed by negatives (in saying what it is not) when I have shown you that is not at all a good way of expressing your opinion.OLP does not point to a set that satisfies (and, again, notice the skeptical fear of inconclusiveness); it uncovers the criteria of how we even are satisfied (here), or not. And it is not a "solution", say, on the terms/grounds of mathematics. — Antony Nickles
What are the "Ordinary Language Philosophy" solutions to common philosophical problems? — Chaz
There are all these paradoxes as to how can we talk about things that don't exist? Pegasus, Zeus, etc. — Manuel
When I use the name "Frodo" I am referring to the hobbit, not to the word "Frodo" or my idea of Frodo. — Michael
Does this entail realism regarding Frodo? Of course not. Frodo is not ontologically-independent of our language and our ideas. — Michael
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