Several weeks ago we had a thread about relationships between women and men where I said that our society treats men with fear and contempt. This is a very good example. Lonely, socially awkward men are suddenly narcissists and psychopaths. — T Clark
Can one criticize the botched, perverted, and sadly mass produced/manufactured Jungian collective unconscious, at all? How does one reason with this insanity? — Posty McPostface
C.G. Jung „The Archetypes and the Collective Unconscious“Whether primitive or not, mankind always stands on the brink of actions it performs itself but does not control. The whole world wants peace and the whole world prepares for war, to take but one example. Mankind is powerless against mankind, and the gods, as ever, show it the ways of fate. Today we call the gods ‘factors,’ which comes from facere, 'to make.' The makers stand behind the wings of the world-theatre. It is so in great things as in small. In the realm of consciousness we are our own masters; we seem to be the ‘factors’ themselves. But if we step through the door of the shadow we discover with terror that we are the objects of unseen factors.
To know this is decidedly unpleasant, for nothing is more disillusioning than the discovery of our own inadequacy. It can even give rise to primitive panic, because, instead of being believed in, the anxiously guarded supremacy of consciousness - which is in truth one of the secrets of human success - is questioned in the most dangerous way. But since ignorance is no guarantee of security, and in fact only makes our insecurity still worse, it is probably better despite our fear to know where the danger lies. To ask the right question is already half the solution of a problem. At any rate we then know that the greatest danger threatening us comes from the unpredictability of the psyche's reactions. Discerning persons have realized for some time that external historical conditions, of whatever kind, are only occasions, jumping-off grounds, for the real dangers that threaten our lives. These are the present politico-social delusional systems. We should not regard them causally, as necessary consequences of external conditions, but as decisions precipitated by the collective unconscious.
A wide variety voted for Trump. I don't think it's wise to assess them "as a group."From what I've seen, it doesn't seem that many Trump supporters fall into the alt-right category. Does anyone have specific information about this. Alt-right tend to be reactionary. They want to go back to an imagined golden age when women were subservient to men. That seems pretty far from the populism of the people who voted for President Trump. — T Clark
Indeed the delusion of externality, and rationality is the most dangerous of all, as Bitter Crank describes. — unenlightened
"Failure" smells bad and a lot of people shy away from the unsuccessful, and justify their distance by projecting negative characteristics onto them. — Bitter Crank
The extremes are always logical extensions of 'normality'. This is what we have made; these are the values we live. — unenlightened
. It's more about not having a reasonable opportunity to gain self-respect. It's about lack of work, or bad work. It's about being devalued and not being treated as a worthwhile person. It's being discarded. — Bitter Crank
Internet phenomenon? Sign of our times? — frank
It's a derogatory term. — frank
Watch how quick feminists are to label guys they don't like as incels. Yet in their next breath they claim to be accepting of mental illness haha. Total confusion and hypocrisy feeding their pathetic little egos.
Truth is they are just insulting disabled people. Who really are the only true incels. — hope
It's entirely absurd for a man to voluntarily identify as being involuntarily celibate — thewonder
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