Not to think of others as important actors with their own agendas. — ssu
I would assume that one could make an even bigger argument about that when it came to war in Iraq. You see, that was a far more of a White House chosen war than attacking Afghanistan. Let's remember that between 9/11 and the start of the war in Afghanistan was less than one month. The war in Iraq was a far more planned thing. Do note the role in that war that the former CEO of Halliburton had.I have a cynical view. As others have already noted, the Afghan war can be seen as a massive money-funnelling operation. — NOS4A2
You make my point perfectly: others are either pawns or victims of the US for you. And nobody else exists, basically.Well the Afghan people had modernizing agendas before the US decided that the opium growers and feudal landlords ought not be displaced because the US hates democracy and fucked them. So you're quite wrong. — StreetlightX
The Afghan king with his friendly neighbors: — ssu
Well, the picture is from December 1955. Some thirty years before the time of "reactionary feudal opium growers helped by Americans" and some twenty or so years before Afghanistan and Pakistan even became large opiate producers. But I assume your idea of Afghanistan and the friendliness of the "Soviet assistance" is simply ignorance of history.Indeed. The Afghans appealed to the Soviets for help because the Americans were doing such a good job at helping the reactionary feudal opium growers who were trying to fuck over the nation - and who eventually succeeded, thanks to the US. — StreetlightX
Lol. Obviously you don't read what others write, which is typical for you. And then when you are out of anything to say, the ad hominems start.It's fun to watch you try and cast about and blame on every other agent but the US — StreetlightX
I think that would be in the millions perhaps to the 2,6 million or so Afghan refugees. Already what can happen is that Afghanis become again the largest refugee group (now there are more Syrian and Venezuelan refugees). People can have a lot of empathy towards Afghan refugees now, but never underestimate how quickly people forget. Empathy can easily turn on it's head and turn into hostility.As I have said before, I think that we should welcome the former people of the Republic of Afghanistan with open arms. — thewonder
Well put. And it's so nice to keep things easy. If you give an answer with "On the other hand..." you seem to be confused and weak.Without their mythic Goliath in the form of the United States, they would have to concern themselves with politics in their countries, thereby ultimately abandoning their favored catholicon of revolution in favor of peaceful protest and civic reform, all of which is wildly out of vogue within the far-Left. — thewonder
As an Australian, he enjoys freedom of speech. Just like you and me.StreetlightX, whom, I am sure, like most people somehow taken by Giorgio Agamben, along with any number of anarchists, is probably not an actual terrorist, however, and is correct to have stated that this is "wildly off-topic". — thewonder
Let's hope for the best.Anyways, I will be leaving now and just wanted to say that The Philosophy Forum should support Afghan refugees and convince other people to do so as well. Let's hope that the international community will both be welcoming of them and apt in their response. — thewonder
As an Australian, he enjoys freedom of speech. Just like you and me. — ssu
Pls America kindly fuck off from the face of the Earth outside of America kthx. — StreetlightX
StreetlightX, you really should open a new post about the follies of the US. — jorndoe
I hope the American population once again learns a hard lesson. — Xtrix
there will always be pretexts for war — Xtrix
My real kvetch with StreetlightX is that he'll take preliminary shots at my nearest allies, the aforementioned "bleeding heart liberal" pacifists, before engaging within any debate — thewonder
:up:Spain, the UK and others have signed a statement outlining their concerns for women and girls in Afghanistan. The statement said, “We are deeply worried about Afghan women and girls, their rights to education, work and freedom of movement. We call on those in positions of power and authority across Afghanistan to guarantee their protection.
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