If it was only so. Still, nuclear power is a totally reasonable alternative. What's so bad in France using a lot less fossil fuel based energy production than other countries of it's size. All thanks to an investment in nuclear power.It seems to me that abandoning nuclear power altogether and investing in greener technologies is the only real way forward. — thewonder
In 1983 the bold headlines in the Newspaper read "ICE AGE COMING" — Rxspence
What newspaper? No scientific journal was saying an ice age was coming. This claim has been debunked for years. — Xtrix
If it was only so. Still, nuclear power is a totally reasonable alternative. What's so bad in France using a lot less fossil fuel based energy production than other countries of it's size. All thanks to an investment in nuclear power. — ssu
Have to say what a meteorologist said about this. He firmly believed that an an ice age is coming and climate change (global warming or the greenhouse effect) is coming too. The first one in perhaps 50 000 to 500 000 years and the other one is happening just now. — ssu
The claims about a coming ice age have been debunked — Xtrix
Absolutely. But the when actual alternative is energy production THAT KILLS PEOPLE ALL THE TIME EVERY DAY, it's a no brainer.But they do need some continuous care and aftercare even after shutdown. — ChatteringMonkey
Yeah well, notice just what you are referring to. Starting from the fact that I wouldn't be communicating with you @ChatteringMonkey, I guess it wouldn't be our biggest concern then.Problem is that if society would break down, terrorism or war would become a thing again, this isn't longer all that evident... and the consequences are immense if something does go wrong, unlike with other power sources. — ChatteringMonkey
It's at least worth a minute to see what they have to say, rather than exclusively trust and listen to what you would call "skeptics" (and I would call denialists). — Xtrix
What we need to do is to do to those who run the show what they have done to us: We need to harness them like work horses and put them to work for us. Subject them to the "human resources department" like they have done to us. Milk them for all they are worth. Trickle up, not trickle down. Stimulate those who actually do all the work and who will actually spend the stimulus stimulating. If those at the top want it to trickle up, then they can work for it. And work hard and smart for it. Working for the people, instead of the other way around. Pay a god damn tax for crying out loud.
— James Riley
So (if you still have the time to respond, or respond later) just what are you just exactly implying? More transfer payments in taxes? To whom are where? Just who works for whom? — ssu
What does give me pause is that nuclear power only has been used in the relatively stable post WWII-period. That kind of stability is historically far from a given. And I think given climate change and other technological and societal challenges that are coming, things could get rough for a while. The numbers for death rate per watts don't capture that eventuality. — ChatteringMonkey
Actual alternatives and actual effects have to be what we base our decisions. Not lofty promises.The question is do we really want to rely on something that potentially has disastrous consequences if things do go south? Maybe it's still better then the alternative, but it's something to consider I think. — ChatteringMonkey
That's a good and simple way to put it.I agree keeping nuclear power is probably necessary now because we can't transition to carbonfree energy fast enough as it is. — ChatteringMonkey
Basically, we don't know if climate change is real/not. — TheMadFool
Basically, we don't know if climate change is real/not.
— TheMadFool
???? It's VERY real! — SoftEdgedWonder
Basically, we don't know if climate change is real/not. — TheMadFool
I have my doubts. Firstly, is it real? Secondly, have we found its cause, are humans to blame? — TheMadFool
I have my doubts. — TheMadFool
You have zero reason to doubt climate change, other than the misinformation you've been fed. — Olivier5
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