Lovely. I'll strike out all prior references to it now that you withdraw it. — Hanover
No. I'm not asking you to do anything. I haven't once made any request of anyone here nor have I judged them in any way for their choices. In fact I think you've made the right choice given what you know.
I'm defending my choice against some pretty nasty judgements. — Isaac
And what is the uncontrolled variable you hypothesize that exists within the vaccinated community that has resulted in this deceptive data? — Hanover
So this is just about niceness? — Hanover
it's a bad decision to make bad decisions, even if you have the right to do it. — Hanover
If you strike out every single other reference to any data with equal or lesser statistical rigour. Are you prepared to do that? I'd hazard a guess this thread would end up looking like I'm talking to myself most of the time. — Isaac
I'm not arguing from it. None of my supporting arguments rely on it. I'm just saying that there's bigger fish to fry if poorly evidenced opinion is an issue for you. — Isaac
I must have been in a different discussion group. My recollection was that you were arguing your decision not to vaccinate was supported by a study that showed a correlation between PhDs — Hanover
you further opined that those PhDs consisted of epidemiologists and other PhDs (statisticians and economists) with specific knowledge on the subject of data manipulation. That was a counter argument to a poster who suggested the vaccine hesitant PhDs were likely physicists. — Hanover
There's a reason you have a jury, right? — Isaac
"They found 23.9 percent of the people who said they hold Ph.D. degrees expressed hesitancy, the highest rate among the various levels of education.Link's not working for me (something about EU laws!) Can you summarise? — Isaac
We've two goals. 1. vaccinate 70%, and 2. minimize inequality in vaccine distribution.
To achieve both we want 70% of people to be vaccinated but no more. Any more would interfere with equitable distribution. — Isaac
I need six volunteers for a dangerous mission. Do you expect praise for throwing up your hand and volunteering to be one of the 14 who stay behind? — Srap Tasmaner
There is hunger in the world. Do you help the hungry by refusing food they would love to get their hands on? What would they think of your refusal? — Srap Tasmaner
The data came off Facebook with no verification. That's enough to ignore it. — frank
Seems either a political stunt gone wrong, a very stupid bit of research, or an OK (if not perfect) methodology (given the vast sample size) which is being hurriedly discredited because it gave the 'wrong' answer. — Isaac
My guess is that only at PhD level do you start realising what can be done by 'managing' your statistics, — Isaac
That seems pretty unlikely. Undergrads should be aware if the malleability of stats. I doubt you need a PhD for this; nor would a PhD in English Lit lead to a deep understanding of inference from statistics. — Banno
But it's not a dangerous mission is it? — Isaac
I don't eat excess because it's wring, not because I actually think my saved food will get to the starving. — Isaac
I need six guys to move some furniture; you volunteer to be one of the guys who doesn't. The point is that counting doing nothing as "each of us doing their part" is sophistry. — Srap Tasmaner
No one is asking you to gorge yourself on the vaccine, just to get the minimum. — Srap Tasmaner
The paper only suggests more research, which is appropriate. It was others who took the data too far. — Banno
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