Ok. You'll most likely be infected with the delta variant between now and October. As you say, most likely you'll be fine. — frank
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. — https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1
Could be. But local data says that unvaccinated vented patients have a 20% mortality rate. Vaccinated and vented have 0.02% mortality. — frank
I've been focusing on all the long-haul I see developing. It's rough — frank
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection,
Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
No data on those who were fully vaccinated. Not much use. — Banno
We conducted a retrospective observational study comparing three groups: (1)SARS-CoV-2-naïve individuals who received a two-dose regimen of the BioNTech/Pfizer mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine, (2)previously infected individuals who have not been vaccinated, and (3)previously infected and single dose vaccinated individuals.
But since when have we made all our decisions on the basis of which course of action leads to the least risk of adverse health outcomes, and nothing else? — Isaac
A while back my government had a cost-benefit analysis done weighing the benefits of the Covid-19 measures versus the indirect consequences. — Tzeentch
the MP (predictably) denied ever having seen the analysis. — Tzeentch
Doesn't sound of much use here then? Is it just your word against his, or do you have some sources? — Isaac
if I've understood this correctly, if you catch it and survive, you will have less chance of catching it again than those who are vaccinated have if getting it at all? — Banno
the question is whether if you were vaccinated, caught covid and survived you would still gain natural immunity as you would if unvaccinated. — Janus
To emphasize, the MP did not deny the existence of the cost-benefit analysis that was made - he just claimed to never have seen it. — Tzeentch
The document can be found here, when the link to "2 MKBA versie 1 en 2.pdf" is followed, but it is not in English. — Tzeentch
It's likely that for most people vaccination against COVID-19 will induce more effective and longer lasting immunity than that induced by natural infection with the virus.
Did Nick get the virus earlier? Has he actually tested positive in the last year? — frank
Their having chosen with integrity? — Isaac
But when we're talking about preferences (not facts), that starts to sound worryingly like a presumption of conformity. As if you owe someone an explanation just to be different. It's non-favoured for men to wear make-up, it doesn't require an explanation when they do. — Isaac
but people apparently aren't going to just say — Isaac
Does he have diabetes? — frank
Most decisions most other people make are a matter of indifference to us. — Srap Tasmaner
I haven't been anywhere near describing behavior in the aggregate, just talking about individuals as individuals. The partitioning of options is purely a description of how an individual might view a field of alternatives — Srap Tasmaner
when you have reason to think you've made a mistake, you just bump the question up to System 2. To put it in the common lingo, such partitioning schemes clearly fall under the heading of "biases and heuristics". — Srap Tasmaner
I'm not sure people always can articulate the reasons for their decisions. — Srap Tasmaner
the friendly neuroscientists down the hall will remind us that whatever they say is an after-the-fact story their brain made up when pressed, a rationalization. — Srap Tasmaner
Frank, come on dude.... what quality of life does that leave those who survive? — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Thank you for telling me to not panic because after the last time I found him on the floor I didn't know how to react to the "next" time.
I'm not handling this well at all. — ArguingWAristotleTiff
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