With definition, in which case an exploration of logical consequence until that breaks down. A variation on the drunkard's search:that is what I would like to explore. — unenlightened
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that is what I would like to explore.
— unenlightened
With ... — tim wood
If I sort some pebbles by size, and put big ones here and little ones there I am imposing a pattern. — unenlightened
If I grab one of those ducks that are in a row and squeeze, I shall likely discover that ducks aren't always gentle and cute. It will bite and kick and quack up a storm. On the other hand, if I try to grab the row that they're putatively in, well, do you see a problem there? — tim wood
By looking. — Prishon
Patterns are not real in nature, only individual events exist. It is language concepts, then, that reify patterns such as ‘the sun rising’. — Possibility
Physics seems to be coming to the realization that there are no intrinsic and non-relational properties in the world. — Joshs
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e software language to a hardware language of physical causality without losing what is essential to the software description. But if software language is only secondary and derivative , there should be a way to convey all of the meaning of the software language via a hardware description.
This has led semiologists to conclude that codes and patterns are intrinsic to nature ( genetic code) , not just to minds. — Joshs
But the world is brimful with relations that don't require us to be noticing them, or even involve us at all, in order to exist.
The codes and patterns that are intrinsic to nature that you assert in the second passage quoted above are the intrinsic relational properties of the world, which nonetheless do not need us to create, or even mediate, their existence it would seem. — Joshs
Well, something changes doesn't it, such that if we were to be there after it had happened, we would see the tree fallen? — Janus
Whether certain paradigms are consistent with reality, or not. — Pop
And we thus interact with that physical informing, rather than an external world. — Pop
How does pattern recognition happen?
— unenlightened
Perception & Memory
1. Perceive A, parts & whole. Record in memory
2. Perceive B, parts & whole. Cross-check perception of A with memory of A. Match! Pattern. No match! No pattern.
— TheMadFool
But you left out the rest of the question.
How does the immune system recognise the breakdown products of cell death? How does a computer learn to play Go, and come up with a strategy that had not been known to humans?
— unenlightened
Are you saying that computers and enzymes have perceptions and memories? — unenlightened
is the very substance of the faculty of understanding, and the whole basis of prediction. It is surely what big brains are evolved to do. — unenlightened
The appearance to us of the external (to our bodies) world is a collaborative enactment between our bodies and the external world in which they are embedded, and latter provides the medium within which our enactments can occur. — Janus
If that's true, then we're addicted to mystery, because without it, we slip into dementia. — frank
That would explain the ubiquity of puzzles. I believe mental stimulation is recommended... — unenlightened
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