Space is the form of the phenomena of external sense, and nothing more. It is what makes possible external intuition, and its given-ness precedes that of objects of external intuition. Outside of the subjective point of view of a human mind, space has no meaning, it is nothing. It is a predicate that is applicable only to objects of human sensibility, that is, phenomena. The form of the external sense of other beings cannot be known. — darthbarracuda
You can imagine an empty room I’m sure. — I like sushi
3. not sure if I follow this last point. — darthbarracuda
0. In the Introduction, Kant says that the Critique is not a doctrine; yet here he calls part of it the Doctrine of Elements (and later the Doctrine of Method). Why? — darthbarracuda
Questions:
0. In the Introduction, Kant says that the Critique is not a doctrine; yet here he calls part of it the Doctrine of Elements (and later the Doctrine of Method). Why?
1. What does "immediately" mean here? Independently of thought, as in, we don't have to reflect upon it?
2. What does "object" mean here? — darthbarracuda
Walls are walls because of the empty space between them. What’s your point? I can imagine a space that contains no objects.
According Kant space and time are ‘Intuitions’. Think of them as the canvas upon which cognition emerges. His view here is that mentally we ‘know’ (I prefer ‘ken’) only by way of space and time. We cannot imagine without placing something in a spaciotemporal frame. — I like sushi
NKS even says the CPR is a patch work of shifting contents from Kant's previous publications. Still the significance and importance of the CPR cannot be denied in the history of philosophy. There are far more interesting and significant philosophies in the CPR than the minor inconsistencies that one should worry about. — Corvus
I would have thought, because independently of thought, it must be sensory perception or the content of the sensory perception. Sense perception of objects would not need intuitions for perception, because it doesn't need a thinking process. It would be direct perception such as bodily sensations? — Corvus
Yeah, I'm realizing that we can really get side-tracked by hairsplitting comparatively minor issues. Probably I need to ease off the perfectionism a bit and settle more on understanding the whole rather than each individual itty bitty detail. Those can come later with time. — darthbarracuda
Yeah, I'm realizing that we can really get side-tracked by hairsplitting comparatively minor issues. Probably I need to ease off the perfectionism a bit and settle more on understanding the whole rather than each individual itty bitty detail. Those can come later with time. — darthbarracuda
I don't understand what you mean by systemic successions, could you clarify this? — darthbarracuda
"Give to ourselves" - I take this to not mean things like memory or imagination (which we present to ourselves without an external stimuli), but rather that which does not have its original origin in us? — darthbarracuda
the intuition of space is not identical to the conception of space. — darthbarracuda
How do I imagine space without something in it? — darthbarracuda
How can Kant claim to know this, — darthbarracuda
By transcendental content, I take Kant to mean space and time? — darthbarracuda
Space is not an intuition, because all intuitions have sensuous origins, and we never sense space. Space for us is never a phenomenon. — Mww
Now think away the Mars bar, and imagine the space it was in, which you should be able to do. — Mww
Elementary particle physics aside, of course, which we don’t care about anyway, but people like to try proving Kant wrong by bringing up such nonsense. — Mww
The book is a critique of reason. Reason is what the show is all about. Transcendental is a perspective, one of four, that reason takes with respect to what it is doing at any given time, the others being empirical, rational and judicial, or, moral. Reason examines....we can examine using reason in these various perspectives....everything from one or more of those perspectives, and some require all of them, re: freedom of the will. — Mww
Now, such could be the case, but parsimony suggests the simplicity of just letting understanding be that faculty by which conceptions arise, and that only and always in conjunction with something else already given by the system, re: phenomenon, because in that way, the system remains a unified procedure, operating by and within itself, without the influence of that which is not contained in it. — Mww
I'm not familiar with this distinction of four perspectives. Is it raised later in the CPR? — darthbarracuda
Space is not an intuition.....
— Mww
Not sure if I agree with this exactly....(...)
......but a representation cannot be both a concept and an intuition for they have a different nature. — darthbarracuda
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