!! ATTENTION all Physicists !! — Amity
Maxwell was OK, (7 out of ten) with good rhythm and rhyme, but some of the others stunk as poems and as also from being too technical. — PoeticUniverse
Well, don't be shy. Sing us some with dance moves :cool: — Amity
Your view of the real-ideal pair is in line with how things are done. — TheMadFool
I also think that there is the issue of stepping into altered states of consciousness. This is touched by in the anthropological understanding of shamanism, but it also linked to what dimensions are believed to exist beyond the three dimensions, including fourth and fifth dimensional reality, and even the idea of parallel universes. — Jack Cummins
Your view of the real-ideal pair is in line with how things are done.
— TheMadFool
A perception like this, nowadays, is the virtue of the insane... — Gus Lamarch
An unusually good book on poetry, Creating Poetry, John Drury. — tim wood
'Emily Dickinson was a pioneer of slant rhyme..." she intentionally avoided the smoother and more usual rhymes"... she pairs 'wake' and 'crack', 'Pearl' and 'School', 'Score' and 'Her'...
Wilfred Owen...in 'Strange Meeting', the story of two enemy soldiers meeting in the underworld rhymes 'escaped' and 'scooped', 'groaned' and 'groined'...
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The presence of rhyme does not excuse the absence of imagery...does not compensate for slackness, abstractness, or excessive softness...
...poems on abstract subjects often work better in rhyme or meter, but overuse of abstraction is always a problem.
Who wants to seek his reading pleasure in a sensory deprivation tank ?
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In 'Out of Africa. Isak Dinesen describes how the East Africans working in her maize-field loved the sound of rhyme, "laughed at it when it came" and begged her: "Speak again. Speak like rain".
Good rhyme ( as well as good metaphor) often affects us with hilarity; we laugh because we are surprised and pleased - we get it.' — John Drury
(Amity, please turn all this into something like a grand opera.) — PoeticUniverse
Amity — Amity
You disapprove. Why? What I said is congruent to what you've been saying, no? — TheMadFool
Does the Haiku technique (economy of words and precision of meaning) somehow imply its own separate metaphysics? — charles ferraro
The Hermit
Hermit greeting time
Out for a leisurely stroll
Walking stick in hand. — charles ferraro
You got me wrong. I, through the comment you refer to, were making explicit the fact that views like yours, which agree with a position - in this case, of mine - that go against the erroneous "common sense" of the masses.
"I was applauding you" — Gus Lamarch
Done yet? Maybe your lute people could do it. — PoeticUniverse
Is this Haiku, in your opinion, easier to deconstruct?
Demiurge
Imagination
Form giver to nothingness
Godlike in essence. — charles ferraro
Applause and encore ? — Amity
Two by Robert Frost, one so short it's done before you've begun. The second best read slowly. — tim wood
' to have enough confidence to be tough on his/her work, to feel at home with 'unsuccess'. One way is to emulate Keats's negative capability,
" that is, when a man is capable of being in uncertainties, mysteries, doubt, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason..."
— Drury
I have noticed in too many poems online small, deliberate errors. I'm guessing a "branding" by the producer. I read that mapmakers would include small deliberate errors in their maps, to protect their intellectual property. But with poetry? — tim wood
The Hermit
Hermit greeting time
Out for a leisurely stroll
Walking stick in hand.
— charles ferraro
Reading and rereading the poem you used as an example, it seems to me that the use of the technique of saving words, ends up also making it difficult to deconstruct the poem so that its metaphysical substance becomes evident - in a Sufi reading, obviously -. — Gus Lamarch
Most likely, the technique also demonstrates that poetry has its own metaphysics, however, its method of analysis may be totally different from the poetic Sufi method, which I demonstrated in the original post. — Gus Lamarch
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