But Narcissus was sooo beautiful, people could not resist him--even if he'd just as soon they go bother somebody else — Bitter Crank
The terrible symmetry of the story of Narcissus is that he becomes one of the spectators he hates. — Valentinus
So Donald Trump, seriously put forward as an example of narcissism, is less infatuated the "real" DT and more infatuated with the DT he imagines himself to be. Egotists, who always put themselves first, may be more realistic about themselves than the narcissist. — Bitter Crank
The utter irrelevance of other people, envious or pitying is the essence of Narcissus. — unenlightened
But Narcissus was sooo beautiful, people could not resist him--even if he'd just as soon they go bother somebody else. Maybe such people are born for real who are irresistibly beautiful and who do not need the help of agents and PR to attract admirers. I think these characters are more fictional vehicles than real. — Bitter Crank
So Donald Trump, seriously put forward as an example of narcissism, is less infatuated the "real" DT and more infatuated with the DT he imagines himself to be. — Bitter Crank
(But he stopped being so attractive once he opened his mouth and sounded exactly like every other teenager.) — baker
I met him about ten years later, I could hardly recognize him. The pale complexion turned reddish, his hair was already thinning, the lustre of his eyes was gone.
I believe, as simply as I can, Narcissus lived an unremarkable life in ancient times, fell in love with himself, and by psychologists got called a narcissist (the causality is clear), and this we remember him to this day?
This all strikes me as strange, or telling of our times. What do you think about all this, as stated, or am I missing something here?
The only person comparable who enjoyed such a life, would be, to myself, Nero(?) — Shawn
But back to point, consumption with self leads to destruction might be one way to say what it says. That's a most general statement at least. — Hanover
Or the whole thing is a PR strategy and he's not a narcissist at all, he only plays one, as an actor. It's feasible to do so, because in our society, people tend to succomb to narcissists one way or another and narcissits can take advantage of that. — baker
But back to point, consumption with self leads to destruction might be one way to say what it says. That's a most general statement at least. — Hanover
I'm puzzled to think that this is true, regardless as to whether this was once thought as true.
Why would you think that, that is true? Is that a hallmark of narcissism? — Shawn
Narcissism, as a diagnosis, is different from the classical references made to refer to a certain activity.
In the clinical sense, if it is not one condition, it is another. The importance of making a distinction is for the purpose of being closer to what is happening rather than further away. People have problems. How does one get closer to understanding them? — Valentinus
I’ve always thought that the psychological concept of narcissism was not only unhelpful but dangerous. — Joshs
I rather liken Nero to Agamemnon: vain, selfish and ruthless in his pursuit of power. Let us not forget that Nero had his own mother killed, upon viewing her a threat to his political position. Agrippina's famous last words, spoken to her assassin, at least according to the account of historian Cassius Dio: "smite me in the womb, whence came such an abominable son". Grisly stuff, that! Grisly man, Nero.The only person comparable who enjoyed such a life, would be, to myself, Nero(?) — Shawn
having worked with those afflicted with prodigious narcissism - to the point where others suffer greatly - I have to accept it contains truth of a sort — Tom Storm
Donnie was reasonably attractive when he was younger.Interesting insight, I think it is true that narcissism can be attractive, provided it comes in a reasonably attractive package. — Bitter Crank
Of course, and this preference is a potential vulnerability that others can exploit.We do like to believe in people who believe in themselves.
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