The maskless rallies, the red-faced anti-maskers screaming at grocery store workers, the protesters hurling invectives at the schoolteachers who are begging for masks so that schoolchildren can return to school — Xtrix
Don't leave out small pox -- the world was declared free of smallpox in 1980. "One of history's deadliest diseases, smallpox is estimated to have killed more than 300 million people since 1900 alone." The fatality rate for smallpox was about 33%. Those who survived were usually scarred, sometimes severely. — Bitter Crank
I just think Trump voters and Republicans. — James Riley
You learn that you don’t need a heap of credentials to be *smart*. — AJJ
It's bad practice to devalue groups of people. — Cheshire
Hospital overflow fears were driven by the unreliable death estimates made by Imperial College, whose model - according to Johan Giesecke (one of Sweden’s prior state epidemiologists) - did not take into account that hospital capacity could be increased, which happened in the UK. — AJJ
This is a way of blaming them for one's low valuation of them. Historically lumping undesirables into sets and devaluing them has preceded atrocities. I think you can really get to know some one and determine they're shit on an individual basis if it's necessary to produce a market price.Some groups of people devalue themselves. That can aid in finding their market value. — James Riley
This is a way of blaming them for one's low valuation of them. — Cheshire
Historically lumping undesirables into sets and devaluing them has preceded atrocities. — Cheshire
I think you can really get to know some one and determine they're shit on an individual basis if it's necessary to produce a market price. — Cheshire
Some are, but are they all like that?Is it even worth it to engage with these people?
They're immune to facts and they will not change their minds no matter what happens, which is interesting psychologically. But should we engage for the sake of others who are rational but "on the fence"? — Xtrix
It's bad practice to devalue groups of people.
— Cheshire — Xtrix
No it isn’t. — Xtrix
I think I understand this argument. It acknowledges that the individual and the group ought be assessed in different ways; at least acknowledging that people are a little more complicated than this or that ascription. It leaves room for hope.But the group value (or lack there of) is a separate matter based upon their treatment of the individual. — James Riley
It's the basis for tribalism. The foundation of fascism. It reduces the human condition to some narrow division of ideals and places us further from a constructive process. — Cheshire
at least acknowledging that people are a little more complicated than this or that ascription. — Cheshire
I still argue that it is better isolate the ideas from the people. I don't think we lose anything from failing to make additional assumptions of worth. But, maybe I'm still idealistic in my non-judgement of people; based on my desire not to be judged by those who don't know me. Or a victim of the egos desire to increase its own value based on breaking down others. The narcissistic trap so many would be intellectuals fall into to.They can be, but when they throw their lot in with X, they have branded themselves with a group and with no aid from me. — James Riley
Dehumanizing is arguably bad; devaluing groups is perfectly normal, and often just. — Xtrix
Devaluing groups in the context of war is a good strategy for war. Do we want to create a society that operates on the rules of war?Individuals often use dehumanization to harden their hearts and make killing easier. A seasoned soldier, on the other hand, doesn't need to dehumanize to kill. The killing is a business based upon devaluation. Killing Nazis was business and business was good. — James Riley
I still argue that it is better isolate the ideas from the people. — Cheshire
Truth is not only stranger than fiction, it is more interesting. — William Randolph
For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong. — H. L. Mencken
When you hear hoofbeats behind you, don't expect to see a zebra. — Theodore Woodward
Do not multiply entities beyond necessity. — William Of Ockham
Certum est, quia impossibile. — Tertullian
Credo quia absurdum. — Tertullian
Do we want to create a society that operates on the rules of war? — Cheshire
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