But if the visible shit, that light- brown rusty blur, has enveloped the planet, then you can bet the invisible shit has too. The lights at night, from space, are another example. Anyone who thinks the Earth is too big for little old us to trash just doesn't get it. — James Riley
How do we convince the powers that are? — SoftEdgedWonder
You can't fix stupid. You have to wait until Nature fixes it. Like Covid. — James Riley
I'm not sure how to parse your comment but I know some plant hobbyists, not exactly real gardeners, but I don't recall them complaining about the seasons. I'm curious, what did you have in mind? — TheMadFool
Musn't we take the power from them (maybe even gun-wise)? — SoftEdgedWonder
Do you mean their fat asses? — SoftEdgedWonder
I infer that you operate on the basis of out of sight, out of mind, and your eyes are closed. Warmth is moving north and has been for years. Gardeners note earlier planting times and longer growing seasons. Also the northern movement of the limits of the habitats of all kinds of animals and plants. And changes in rainfall. In short, greater and lesser changes in everything. An example, pond hockey through the 1960s, but not now. I'm pretty sure if you took your blinders off, you would astonish yourself at what you've overlooked. — tim wood
Don't you mean monocracy? — SoftEdgedWonder
Or do you mean eclectic opportunistic nepotism? — SoftEdgedWonder
1. Explain the rise in earth temperatures with the greenhouse effect of (raised) CO2 levels.
2. Make a prediction of how temperatures will rise in (say) the next 10 or 20 years. — TheMadFool
Are you averring the case has not been made? — tim wood
What's the best gameplan for us given that we don't know the truth about climate change? Should we assume climate change is real or should we assume it isn't and act accordingly? — TheMadFool
climatologists have more work to do, proving that climate change is due to CO2 emissions from human activity. That's why I suggested that they need to do two things:
1. Explain the rise in earth temperatures with the greenhouse effect of (raised) CO2 levels.
2. Make a prediction of how temperatures will rise in (say) the next 10 or 20 years. — TheMadFool
Furthermore, we apply the experimentally derived decomposition function to a global map of deadwood carbon synthesized from empirical and remote-sensing data, obtaining an estimate of 10.9 ± 3.2 petagram of carbon per year released from deadwood globally, with 93 per cent originating from tropical forests. Globally, the net effect of insects may account for 29 per cent of the carbon flux from deadwood, which suggests a functional importance of insects in the decomposition of deadwood and the carbon cycle.
I'm going to have to ask you to stop exhaling CO2 until you can prove it isn't dangerous (also all that hot air). — frank
That is why it is necessary for government to regulate everyone under threat of violence.
Didn’t help at all. — NOS4A2
frank and your initial comments were fundamentally stupid. — James Riley
Climate change denial, or global warming denial, is denial, dismissal, or unwarranted doubt that contradicts the scientific consensus on climate change, including the extent to which it is caused by humans, its effects on nature and human society, or the potential of adaptation to global warming by human actions.[3][4][5] Many who deny, dismiss, or hold unwarranted doubt about the scientific consensus on anthropogenic global warming self-label as "climate change skeptics"] which several scientists have noted is an inaccurate description. Climate change denial can also be implicit when individuals or social groups accept the science but fail to come to terms with it or to translate their acceptance into action. Several social science studies have analyzed these positions as forms of denialism, pseudoscience, or propaganda.
One's a climate denier and the other either is one or tries to sound like one. So don't expect too much. — Xtrix
Unless you've been living in a cave somewhere, this information is readily available. Perhaps you missed the latest IPCC report as well. Made some news a few weeks ago.
CO2 levels and increased average temperature of the earth are very well correlated, with data going back tens and hundreds of thousands of years.
Predictions about temperature rise have been made, shown to be accurate, and continue to be made. There are many scenarios taken into account -- business as usual versus a real shift in fossil fuel use, for example.
The evidence is overwhelming. Denial is rampant because it's a difficult thing to accept and because of a massive propaganda campaign from the fossil fuel industry, especially around 2009 -- of which you seem to be a casualty. — Xtrix
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