An understanding of what art provides. — Pop
When it comes to deciding on a work of art ( painting ) it is consciousness that decides on the canvas. It is consciousness that decides on image.It is consciousness that decides composition. It is consciousness that decides on colour.It is consciousness that decides how to mix the colours and whether the hues are correct. It is consciousness that decides which brush you use and how you place the paint on the canvas. It is consciousness that decides how well you are going. . It is consciousness that decides when the painting is finished. And it is consciousness that decides if it is a success or not. — Pop
I think those are just words. Not sure they really connect to anything except as a figure of speech. You could also say, and with no greater meaning, that my tastes are elements of my psychological essence - of my personal identity. What does this contribute? — Tom Storm
It's possible that what you're really saying is anything to do with the human mind is art; after all, everything we think/speak/do provides a glimpse of our consciousness. If so, what's unrelated to consciousness is not art. How do you explain the warm, fuzzy feelings one gets when watching a sunset, the sky ablaze yellow, red, orange? A sunset isn't a human artefact ergo, not linked to consciousness at all and yet we're moved by it as much as we would be looking at the Mona Lisa. — TheMadFool
I have to say that once in a while you say sensible things! :ok: — VerdammtNochMal
I wasn't fishing for compliments. — TheMadFool
Art is an expression of human consciousness — Pop
There is some kind of relationship between the brain, mind and consciousness. — RussellA
I know. But still! Great words! Truly. Ohoh, another compliment... :smile:
I get to know you better each day. By words only! — VerdammtNochMal
:ok: If that's what floats your boat, by all means, be my guest. — TheMadFool
Pop My mistake? I thought you stated you wanted to 'publish' something. — I like sushi
Either way have fun with it :) — I like sushi
This is interesting. Art provides something? — Tom Storm
This seems to me to be an example of romantic, selective exaggeration — Tom Storm
Exactly! An art showing our relation to Nature and the gods (no relation at all, I hope, but the simple fact of acknowledging their being and presence), how can information interpret this? Or dissipative systems? Or entropy evolving on a rotating Earth, between heat and cold, day and night? The daytime breaths out. The nighttime inhales. How do you, Pop, interpret Aboriginal art or the Hopi art? I like your paintings and understand them. But they reflect your view.It can't embrace all art. Well, it can, but then you destroy it. — VerdammtNochMal
Does creativity originate in the brain, mind or consciousness. — RussellA
It's possible that what you're really saying is anything to do with the human mind is art; after all, everything we think/speak/do provides a glimpse of our consciousness. If so, what's unrelated to consciousness is not art. How do you explain the warm, fuzzy feelings one gets when watching a sunset, the sky ablaze yellow, red, orange? A sunset isn't a human artefact ergo, not linked to consciousness at all and yet we're moved by it as much as we would be looking at the Mona Lisa. — TheMadFool
If everything is an expression of consciousness how can art not be? — Pop
I am highlighting that it is the consciousness of the artist that is special, not art per se — Pop
↪Pop I can't and I bear you no ill will. Just don't see your point. I am very interested in what people say about art. Even critics. :fire: Seems to me art and religion spawn the most elaborate theories and reactions. — Tom Storm
This is the central difficulty of all art discourse; essentially we are talking about different things. We vaguely agree on a central concept, but we experience it differently When we understand how the notion of art is related to personality and consciousness, we can predict that two very different personalities, or cultures, must as a result of this difference, construct different conceptions of art. So the resultant discourse about art is immediately disagreeable, and if any progress is to be made, an agreement about art must first be made. We have all experienced this, and it is illustrated in the difference in the art of native cultures, subcultures, the art of the mainstream, and the elite. — Pop
Art is information about the artist's evolving process of self organization.
Philosophy is information about the philosopher's evolving process of self organization.
These are the constant elements in art and philosophy, everything else is optional - endlessly variable and open ended. — Pop
Art is information about the artist's evolving process of self organization.
Philosophy can be defined in exactly the same way.
Philosophy is information about the philosopher's evolving process of self organization.
These are the constant elements in art and philosophy, everything else is optional - endlessly variable and open ended. — Pop
Artists and philosophers don't organize themselves the same way. Thus, art and philosophy, using your logic, are different. — Noble Dust
↪Pop All I'm saying is this: There are many aspects of nature, where consciousness is not involved, that instill the same emotions as when viewing a human art piece — TheMadFool
How is this relevant to a definition of art? Can you produce an art work that is not captured by my definition? — Pop
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