What internal motion is meant here? That of an electron? — Thunderballs

Yes. Measured in quanta? So I guess the heretical point is that how can a measured energy absorbed not translate into the same measure in movements?

If a photon is absorbed there is an increase in the potential energy of the electron. Not its kinetic energy.

If a photon is absorbed there is an increase in the potential energy of the electron. — Thunderballs

Hah! Not until after it gets "excited" and jumps to higher energy orbit. It is the distance from the nucleus that electron increases the potential energy. This is rough. Not sure.

No, it is the energy that sets the orbit. That's first year stuff. If you study the physics of orbital docking maneuvers you'll see what I mean.

Hah! Not until after it gets "excited" and jumps to higher energy orbit. — Caldwell

Not until then no. That's pretty obvious.

No, it is the energy that sets the orbit. That's first year stuff. If you study the physics of orbital docking maneuvers you'll see what I mean — Gary M Washburn

You can't compare classical spaceship orbits with an electron, which doesn't follow a classical orbit.

Just thinking, would it be better to say that there is a decay in the understanding of science? — ssu

Guess who the front-men are. Bohr, for example.

↪Caldwell
No idea what you're talking about so next time don't write in a rush. I recommend editing the OP :) — I like sushi

Not sure if I even have the stamina at this point. Just try to read through the thread.

Not many physicists here. A pitty.

I hope to see a debate or discussion regarding the anti-scientific sentiments or movement towards the decay of science — Caldwell

It's a common saying that science is a self-correcting system.

Is Science Broken?Or is it self-correcting?

We can be an optimist and say it's self-correcting.

We can be an optimist and say it's self-correcting. — Caldwell

Science is a self-correcting system.

Science is a self-correcting system. — Wheatley

Yes, that's a good postulate. Rationality is at the heart of scientific endeavor. Just like in philosophy, where "therapy" is the remedy for obsession with too much metaphysical speculation, skepticism, or maybe even nihilism; adherence to scientific principles will correct itself.

Rationality is at the heart of scientific endeavor. — Caldwell

So it is at the heart of religion. Galileo's conviction was a rational one!

So it is at the heart of religion. Galileo's conviction was a rational one! — Thunderballs

:blush: Okay.

Luckily, Galileo was given a comfortable position afterwards. Willhelm Reich was unrationaly convicted by science. And his books were burned.His lab destroyed. His stuff forbiden. In 1957. In the US.

What was Reich all about, besides being German?

Reich was much encouraged by the meeting and hoped he would be invited to join Princeton's Institute for Advanced Study.[114] During their next meeting, he gave Einstein a small accumulator, and over the next 10 days Einstein performed experiments with it in his basement, which involved taking the temperature above, inside and near the device, and stripping it down to its Faraday cage to compare temperatures. He observed an increase of temperature, which Reich argued was caused by orgone.[n 5] One of Einstein's assistants pointed out that the temperature was lower on the floor than on the ceiling.[n 6] Einstein concluded that the effect was simply due to the temperature gradient inside the room. "Through these experiments I regard the matter as completely solved", he wrote to Reich on 7 February 1941.[115]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich

He wrote a treatise about prewar fascism. If Hitler had given some room to his orgone energy, the war would not even be imagined. I'm not an orgone (from organism and orgasm) energy defender (he examined its real existence, what's wrong with that) defender but can relate. The sexual energies are a big piwer (andcthus energy). If I walk outside I love the women but men...? Also but less!

He helped people with cancer (orgone accumulator). The song "Cloudbusting" is about him. From the persoective of his son.

And I can go on and on....

Good Lord!

Wow! I was completely ignorant about the orgone accumulator. :sad:

Wow! I was completely ignorant about the orgone accumulator. :sad: — Caldwell

Wow! Im glad to hear that! How can that be? Its part of US history. And Im not even American! Maybe, though, I know more about the US than about my own country. How can that be?

Trust me. I studied History and Classics and Philosophy. (I also studied Calculus and Algebra -- my favorite subjects, but now I'm not good in math. lol!)

Good Lord! — Caldwell

I really cant tell if you are serious or not!

Trust me. I studied History and Classics and Philosophy. — Caldwell

So? What should I trust?

I studied History — Caldwell

You studied a history.

I really cant tell if you are serious or not! — Thunderballs

Disappointed much?

You studied a history. — Wheatley

I was about to write the same!

Okay maybe we did touch on Reich. :cool:

Disappointed much? — Caldwell

In you? I don't dare! :smile: