No, it's just that we don't all see the world in simplistic 'worth living' or 'not worth living' arbitrary categories, nor do we all see a clear way in which to determine these ideas except by more extreme examples. — Tom Storm
I don't think it is possible to determine what a life worth living actually means except in the extreme. — Tom Storm
No, it's just that we don't all see the world in simplistic 'worth living' or 'not worth living' arbitrary categories, nor do we all see a clear way in which to determine these ideas except by more extreme examples. — Tom Storm
I'm talking about the idea that a life might be worth living even if it were, however improbably, devoid of pleasure for the one living it. — Janus
You are trivializing a perfectly understandable point. — schopenhauer1
At least for me, a life worth living is based on what I want to do in my life and I think that every person has to have something that they desire. If that desire is fulfilled then it is a life worth living and if it isn't then it is not a life worth living. — I love Chom-choms
I take the view life is what happens when you're busy making other plans. — Tom Storm
I never really understood what this meant. Please explain. — I love Chom-choms
So, please answer my question, "What do you live for?" — I love Chom-choms
If that life affords some pleasure for others. Think of the great artist whose life is constant suffering for example. — Janus
We don't need to evoke 'great artists' - think of the long suffering parents who work hard in menial jobs getting ill health, postponing all their own pleasures, perhaps dying young so that their children can study and become useful transformative members of a culture - doctors, pharmacists, researchers, teachers, whatever. Pretty common. Self sacrifice has traditionally been seen as worth living for. — Tom Storm
2. There is no complete conception of what a good life is, but only partial representations of what may be considered a good life, and such a complete conception will probably never be known, i.e. a complete — darthbarracuda
Can't someone just say that whatever a person thinks is a good life, is a good life for that person? They will say the evidence for their justification is their own sense of self-satisfaction with life. — schopenhauer1
. A good life is worth living; conversely, a bad life is not worth living. — darthbarracuda
But when there is a long history of disagreement over something - with lots of different viewpoints that often contradict each other, so that it is not at all apparent as to what it is we are even disagreeing about, or that it is even within our means to know anything about this thing that is being argued about - that is when the uncertainty becomes relevant.
I don't think there has ever been a single coherent idea of what a good life is. There are partial representations of a good life - pleasure, virtue, accomplishment, etc - but there has never been and there never will be a complete idea of what a good life is. My view here is that, because we cannot ever know what the good life is, we cannot ever have it. — darthbarracuda
it must therefore follow that there is no such thing as life not worth living. — Hanover
just because people think they have a good life doesn't mean they actually do. — darthbarracuda
The absurd conclusions arise from a failure to posit meaning into existence. Nihlism is inherently absurd.I think this would entail absurd conclusions — darthbarracuda
Embrace the suck! — James Riley
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