It's not normal to require people to take all action available to them to reduce any given risk. We normally only require that the rusk be reduced below an acceptable threshold. Do you think that in all your lifestyle choices I couldn't point to some action you could take to reduce the risks associated with them? — Isaac
I don't need a good reason why I shouldn't be vaccinated, it's not a default position. You need a good reason why I should, by which I mean some demonstration that it's unreasonable of me to hold a position that the risk I represent by my actions is below a normal acceptable threshold of risk. — Isaac
Would you be prepared to sign a waiver to the effect that you will refuse medical treatment if you catch covid even if your condition becomes critical? That would be at least a step towards common decency. — Janus
not least of which is the fact that most of the vulnerable are already dead. — Isaac
I don't trust the pharmaceutical industry
— Isaac
Bit hasty there? Distrusting diabetics die. :death: — jorndoe
Would you be prepared to sign a waiver to the effect that you will refuse medical treatment if you catch covid even if your condition becomes critical? — Janus
That you would nonetheless refuse to get vaccinated, although you have no good reason for that decision, but just because you don't feel like it, shows an antisocial attitude. Would you be prepared to sign a waiver to the effect that you will refuse medical treatment if you catch covid even if your condition becomes critical? That would be at least a step towards common decency.
You're ignoring the emergency status of the situation. — Janus
In any case lifestyle choices are motivated by desires and aversions, pleasures and addictions; things which are of ongoing significance to one's life. Getting vaccinated, given that the vaccines are more than safe enough, is nothing more than a minor inconvenience. — Janus
the habit of holding the best interests of your community uppermost in your mind. — Janus
I don't agree that giving vaccines to healthy people who have little chance of contracting the severe disease is a good use of limited resources. — Isaac
The talk about "a normal acceptable threshold of risk" is a red herring: you are more likely, however minimally, to infect another person, or become critically infected, and need ICU treatment and deny someone else that treatment or other emergency treatment if you don't get vaccinated. — Janus
Would you be prepared to sign a waiver to the effect that you will refuse medical treatment if you catch covid even if your condition becomes critical? That would be at least a step towards common decency. — Janus
If there's a war and they are asked to take shots of lead for the nation, what are they gona do? — Olivier5
If there's a war and they are asked to take shots of lead for the nation, what will they do? — Olivier5
It’s a step backward from both common decency and human rights to suggest that some should refuse, or be refused, medical treatments because they are unvaccinated. It’s not only antisocial, but cruel. — NOS4A2
Last year front line workers were heroes. It was all fake, of course. Now they’re replaceable. — NOS4A2
All you guys have are false analogies and never anything about the issue at hand. Chefs? :lol: — NOS4A2
Individuals who have had SARS-CoV-2 infection are unlikely to benefit from COVID-19 vaccination, and vaccines can be safely prioritized to those who have not been infected before.
The science says they aren’t required. What happened to listening to science? — NOS4A2
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