I think you have confused me with someone else. From this thread:
A fact is a truth-maker for at least one truth-claim.
— 180 Proof — 180 Proof
Reality is the word we use when we go hunting forcertainty. — “Tom Storm”
Ineluctability. — 180 Proof
It sounds like you're saying that, for example, GOFAST is very likely some form of fowl. — InPitzotl
A fact is an accurate observation.
— Olivier5
Taking this as a naive attempt at verificationism — Banno
The criticisms I levelled at Olivier target observation, not verification per se. — Banno
But it sounds a bit confusing:Not really. I am using the example to illustrate what is a fact. — Olivier5
My point here is that the only undeniable facts are the grainy footages and their metadata (how and when they were collected). — Olivier5
By including line (B), it sounds like you're suggesting the footage being genuine is a fact. By your prior statement it sounds like you're binding undeniability to factuality. By your prior statement and your current one (the one I'm replying to) it sounds like you're including the video's genuineness in what you're calling undeniability. I disagree that the video's being genuine qualifies as undeniable.(A) Is it a fact that the US air forces have released these vids? Yes.
(B) Is the footage genuine? Most probably yes.
(C) So the vids are facts. — Olivier5
I disagree that the video's being genuine qualifies as undeniable.
...and yet, you also sound like you're paying heed to this... in line (B), you call the video's footage "most probably" genuine. The whole question here is where you draw the line. — InPitzotl
We might could have a "pragmatic fudge"; certain and undeniability really mean "for all practical purposes". — InPitzotl
But suppose we put a number to it; let's say using some Bayesian analysis, anything more likely than p is certain; less likely than p is uncertain. Then I'm not sure there is such a number beyond which are only facts, and before which are only theories.
So you use verisimilitude as your measure of truth. — Banno
Is there help? — Tom Storm
I'm looking into antirealism, to see if it is a viable alternative to realism. — Banno
So you use verisimilitude as your measure of truth.
If not, then it's not apparent how you might reconcile realism with Fitch's paradox. — Banno
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