How hopeless under ground
Falls the remorseful day. — Bitter Crank
don't know if you have ever read this one (I'd be surprised, since it is fairly well known), but it's long been a favorite of mine. It is a statement about human nature thought processes, and interactions. — Michael Zwingli
What is it you like about it? Is it the content or do you find the form pleasing? — T Clark
I tend towards sentimentality in poetry — Michael Zwingli
This made me want to ask - do you like "Song of Hiawatha?" Maybe more romantic than sentimental. I don't know if it's a good poem, but I love it. — T Clark
Who can dislike an epic poem which is yet endearing? — Michael Zwingli
‘Truth, Lord; but I have marr’d them: let my shame
Go where it doth deserve.’
‘And know you not,’ says Love, ‘Who bore the blame?’
‘My dear, then I will serve.’
‘You must sit down,’ says Love, ‘and taste my meat.’
So I did sit and eat. — Bitter Crank
Why would it have been better had a pagan said it? — Bitter Crank
Love is the love of Jesus, God. Takes away blame, easy peasy. — T Clark
It would just be more interesting, psychologically, philosophically if the love of each other, the love of other people, the love of other people for you, could take away blame. That would take some thought. — T Clark
if the love of each other, the love of other people, the love of other people for you, could take away blame... — T Clark
That is my biggest caveat against evangelical Christianity — Leghorn
That is my biggest caveat against evangelical Christianity: all you’ve got to do is “repent” of your sin, which means you can sin all you want to...as long as you repent soon afterwards!...
...and as long as you confess belief in Jesus, you are saved, however much you may sin. James knew much better: “faith without works is dead.” And Jesus preached much better too. You may cry “Lord, lord,..” I did this or that in Your name, to gain significance among the faithful, but He replies, “I never knew you.” — Leghorn
Love your neighbor as yourself. How many who confess their faith in Jesus turn their backs on their neighbors? fail to stop for the guy carrying a gas can down the road? — Leghorn
The love that Herbert depicts is perfect. Is our human love capable of transforming ourselves or someone else? — Bitter Crank
Do people ever display exceptional love? Yes, sometimes. I wouldn't advise anyone to hold their breath waiting for an example of exceptional love, but it sometimes happens. When experienced, it is transformative — Bitter Crank
That is my biggest caveat against evangelical Christianity: all you’ve got to do is “repent” of your sin, which means you can sin all you want to...as long as you repent soon afterwards!... — Leghorn
↪PoeticUniverse
When I started this thread, I should have specified that posters should not include more than a limited number of personally written poems. Alas. Because I didn't, you have filled it with, by my count, 18 self-indulgent, poorly written poems. [...] What I fear is that you have dozens more poems hidden away on your computer that you will continue to place here. Please stop. There are plenty of poetry forums out there. Please stop damaging one of my favorite discussions. — T Clark
I can see that your poetry is heart-felt and sincere. It's romantic, which is fine. It is also philosophical, as the OP specifies. But it is not good poetry. — T Clark
I can agree to not posting any more lengthy poems — PoeticUniverse
Amnity asks: What is wrong with it ? Constructive criticism, any ?
Any specifics concerning "But it is not good poetry?" to make your generalization helpful? — PoeticUniverse
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