Perhaps the religious aspects often blend in to what commonly is viewed as "culture" or "cultural aspects" as we don't want to admit the religious undertones in them. — ssu
I think that your ideas on trying to define 'God' are important because the idea is so ambiguous and used in such different ways. The analysis of language may be so important in discussing religious concepts. — Jack Cummins
I'm still not aware of — 180 Proof
They somehow see it as a taboo matter, imo at least. — dimosthenis9
Just look at the national flags of the Nordic countries. Do note the symbolism. — ssu
Simply Western democracies who want to uphold freedom of religion and be multicultural (in the positive way) don't simply want to brandish the religious aspects of their heritage. Or especially admit how their core values are partly Christian values. — ssu
I had never read Zapffe before reviewing this thread, but have discovered in him a "kindred spirit" (for lack of a better term) of sorts. I had arrived at some similar conclusions independently of the man, and via a different route: that the basic problem facing humankind is, and that the global crises looming on "the horizon" are caused by, what is essentially an evolutionary mishap: the overdevelopment of the frontal brain within one (our) species of mammal, allowing for powerful reasoning, scientific, and abstract thought without there being a proportionate cognitive development allowing for self regulation of those abilities. — Michael Zwingli
In many ways, my own is shaped by the psychodynamic thinkers, including Freud and, especially, Carl Jung. — Jack Cummins
I have treated many hundreds of patients. Among those in the second half of life - that is to say, over 35 - there has not been one whose problem in the last resort was not that of finding a religious outlook on life. It is safe to say that every one of them fell ill because he had lost that which the living religions of every age have given their followers, and none of them has really been healed who did not regain his religious outlook. — Jung
What do you think of Viktor Frankl's logotherapy in comparison to Jungian psychotherapy?... an overriding need for meaning, — Jack Cummins
I wonder how much stands up to philosophical scrutiny, especially the idea of the collective unconscious. — Jack Cummins
now I wonder how many others flags of countries includes a Cross! Or any other religion symbol.My country's flag includes also! — dimosthenis9
that the natural grounds from moral norms are derived via (ecology/culture-sensitive) defeasible reasoning. — 180 Proof
An appeal to popularity deflects from this issue of the historicity / genealogy of "religiousity" and the subsequent contrast of philosophical practices. "Religion" is atavistic and "philosophy" fundamentally confronts, undermines, that atavism. The cultural and institutional function of "religion for social cohension" is an anachronism shown to be so, after all, since the advent of established cosmopolitan societies such as the multi-ethnic and multi-religious e.g. Roman Republic-then-Empire from c5th century BCE to 5th century CE or the establishment of al-Andalus and subsequent Caliphates from the 8th to 15th centuries CE. "Religion", like other illusions / distractions (e.g. alcohol, sports, movies & shopping), may be "popular" with the masses, dimo9, but the topic at issue here being discussed is whether or not philosophical thinking (and its progeny) is better for the life (and livelihoods) of the mind than religious believing.And unfortunately even nowadays people need a God ... — dimosthenis9
You might be on to something here. I think it is socially important to have those 'natural grounds' to moral norms that you talk about. Even philosophers try this and make the case for humanism. Religion of course has either gods or a god as the 'natural grounds' for moral norms. Moral norms and what is right and wrong have to be universally accepted in order for a society to work. Religions try to enforce those codes of conduct.cults alike were built on – with myths / mysteries even occulted – our species eusociality: that the natural grounds from moral norms are derived via (ecology-/culture-sensitive) defeasible reasoning. — 180 Proof
Thank you for your reply and I will try to follow through Schopenhauer's ideas about religion. — Jack Cummins
At the end aren't religions only human inventions? — dimosthenis9
but the topic at issue here being discussed is whether or not philosophical thinking (and its progeny) is better for the life (and livelihoods) of the mind than religious believing — 180 Proof
Well for me philosophical thinking is better indeed since gives you a deeper realization of morals and the actual reasons for acting "good" in societies. — dimosthenis9
But again I m not sure we could make a rule out of that. Since as for others, philosophy is not enough to fill their existential void and have the need of turning into a God as to find "answers". It's a subjective matter after all. — dimosthenis9
can't accuse them of being wrong and me the right one, since me myself I don't have all the answers. — dimosthenis9
Makes you dig deeper inside yourself and with not just following divine orders without any questioning them at all. — dimosthenis9
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