The notion of 'God' has already flunked out due to the impossibility of a composite being First and Fundamental. Not even the tiny proton could be Fundamental because its parts would have to be more so. — PoeticUniverse
Hey! There you are again! What happened to the poems you posted in a thread about philosophical poems? Why did you delete it? :sad: — GraveItty
The lounge area? — GraveItty
You might ask, then what's the sense in creating a similar universe? — GraveItty
Yes but your incoherent notion is only one description of such an entity. — Benj96
So even if it is just people aspiring to the divine, I think you have to give the idea of God some credence. — Pantagruel
With the garage dragon, Sagan alluded to a simple procedure by which claims can be counter/evidence-immunized, converging on such propositions. With the invisible gardener, John Wisdom expressed something similar. Say, when the Olympians were nowhere to be found once people started looking (and could), the deities became "relocated" to some "otherworldly" realm.
The immunization procedure.
Thus, Tillich, Eagleton, and Whalon learned from the best, and now declare "God does not exist", yet in the same breath also declare "I believe God is". If we take existence to include reality, fictions/imaginations (fictions exist too, they're just not real), thinking (might occur when reading the forums), whatever, then their strange verbiage leads to "God" as "something" of which nothing much can be said. Neither here nor there, a ghost of bewitching language. — jorndoe
if happiness consists in activity in accordance with virtue, it is reasonable that it should be activity in accordance with the highest virtue; and this will be the virtue of the best part of us. Whether then this be the Intellect [nous], or whatever else it be that is thought to rule and lead us by nature, and to have cognizance of what is noble and divine, either as being itself also actually divine, or as being relatively the divinest part of us, it is the activity of this part of us in accordance with the virtue proper to it that will constitute perfect happiness; and it has been stated already that this activity is the activity of contemplation. — Aristotle, The Nichomachean Ethics
RIP Notion of 'God'; It was never going to wash that the lesser had to be created by the greater, and so forth, ad infinitum… — PoeticUniverse
Does anyone here believe the bible does indeed have divine authority? — Robbie84
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1. If I don't believe in God then what risk do I run to start believing in God if there is no God?
2. If I do believe in God then what risk do I run to stop believing in God if there is God?
6m — SpaceDweller
What I'm suggesting here is that imagination could be more logic-attuned
How did God attain such power? Is there a logical lock that prevents power reaching the wrong hands?(A logic question based on an imaginary scenario). — Varde
What risks you refer to? I can't see what kind of risk one runs if he make a change in belief — DecheleSchilder
I'm suggesting to use reason rather than faith(or lack of it) to weight risks of 2 choices where each choice has equal chance of probability. — SpaceDweller
"God", undefined and vague, is not even an idea, just a cipher (i.e. mental crutch) outside the remits of both science and logic.Why is it that neither science nor logic can disprove God? — Shawn
Childhood indoctrination. Mostly. In general, IME, people acquire habits of believing long before they habitualize thinking and even longer before, if they ever do, unlearn bad habits which block or impair thinking well for themselves.What's the bedrock belief here that overrides one's reasons or lack thereof, of or for believing in God in face of no empirical evidence to attest to his existence.
I don't understand this question.Is it really the argument from nothing, that something was created that backs everything God related up?
I don't understand this question. — 180 Proof
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