• InPitzotl
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    Two experiencing entities.Daemon
    Alright, I think we're talking past each other a bit. The two (mind you, not one) experiencing entities are a result of corpus callosotomy. The notion that experience is what makes you an entity cannot account for the fact that a corpus callosotomy should make two entities. Agentive integration by contrast explains why you are a single entity. The notion that you are an entity due to agentive integration does account for the fact that a corpus callosotomy should make two entities. Once again, experience is doing no work for you here; it's an epicycle.

    But I don't really think the effects of cutting the corpus callosum are as straightforward as they are sometimes portrayed, for example, the person had a previous life with connected hemispheres.Daemon
    No idea what you're saying here. Are you suggesting there are two individuals before the corpus callosotomy?
    I don't think the "corpus callosum/AHS" argument addresses this.Daemon
    Quite the opposite; see above. We can take an external view as well:

    https://movie-usa.glencoesoftware.com/video/10.1212/WNL.0000000000006172/video-1
    From: https://n.neurology.org/content/91/11/527

    This person did not have a corpus callosotomy; she had a stroke (see article). It is very obvious that she has AHS. That's also curious... why is it obvious? What behaviors is she exhibiting that suggest AHS?
  • Daemon
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    The two (mind you, not one) experiencing entities are a result of corpus callosotomyInPitzotl

    I don't understand why you are telling me that, as if it was a point against me.

    This person did not have a corpus callosotomy; she had a stroke (see article). It is very obvious that she has AHS. That's also curious... why is it obvious? What behaviors is she exhibiting that suggest AHS?InPitzotl


    I don't understand why you are asking me that.
  • InPitzotl
    880
    I don't understand why you are telling me that, as if it was a point against me.Daemon
    Because you keep asking about being an entity, but you're not accounting for the number here. But you keep saying that I haven't accounted for things.
    I don't understand why you are asking me that.Daemon
    Because we can indeed tell by her behaviors. The subject talking to us is behaving as if her alien hand is a stranger. And you aren't diagnosing her alien hand by counting how many "experiences" there are. Her behavior is distinct from a normative case, but also distinct from someone who has half their body paralyzed after a stroke. There's still agency in there, just not integrated. Apparently you think that's a bad description; but it's kind of definitive of the condition.
  • TheMadFool
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    It's true that understanding is, from the standpoint of someone intent on conveying (say) a point, restricted to that point. For instance, if I have a certain idea, call it x, that I want to share with you, I would only deem you to have understood when you too have, let's just say, an exact copy of x in your mind. In a sense, then, understanding boils down to minds xeroxing the contents of other minds. What are the ramifications of such an interpretation? Your guess is as good as mine.

    However, I don't see why understanding should be limited/constrained in this way. The Buddha, it's said, once saw a pot of gold and exclaimed to his disciples "look, a snake!"
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