I guess it's hard for a US citizen to imagine things can and do work differently elsewhere. — Benkei
So even in your own legal system there's recognition of contracts that do not contain consideration. — Benkei
Anyway, you seem to have precisely nothing to say of any philosophical interest. Stop Barty baiting and engage with the arguments. — Bartricks
Great. What is intuition? What is moral intuition? — tim wood
All right, but how normative, how evaluative? Normative and evaluative comprise judgments. How exactly is an intuition a judgement (assuming that judgments and intuitions are not the same thing)?But not that it matters, an intuition is a mental state with representative contents. And in the case of a moral intuition, the content in question is an evaluative or normative proposition. — Bartricks
I assume there's an "is" in there. Reason creates intuitions? How does that work? If reason creates intuitions, then that's reason, not intuition.applying one's reason (which the faculty that creates intuitions in us) — Bartricks
a gift can be refused, so there's offer and acceptance, which makes it a contract. And no, the doctrine of consideration did not exist before 1500. — Benkei
My usual approach is to look to see if I can tell if folks know what they're talking about. If I can't see it, I ask for some definitions, even if working, tentative definitions. Lacking that scaffolding, nothing straight or solid can be built.which is what you'd do to any debate about anything, right? — Bartricks
a gift can be refused, so there's offer and acceptance, which makes it a contract. And no, the doctrine of consideration did not exist before 1500. — Benkei
No, if it is refused, there is no contract, by definition. If it is accepted without consideration, it is a gift. There is no contract. — James Riley
All right, but how normative, how evaluative? Normative and evaluative comprise judgments. How exactly is an intuition a judgement (assuming that judgments and intuitions are not the same thing)? — tim wood
By Anglo-Saxon definitions. If I accept a gift, there was a gift offered and accepted, which results in a valid contract under Dutch law and every other European jurisdiction — Benkei
Another example is an amendment to a contract where the scope of work doesn't change but the contractor simply asks for more money because of underestimated circumstances. No consideration either, valid under any continental jurisdiction as a contractual amendment and therefore a contract. Not so under UK law (barring some exceptions even there under UK law that no consideration is required). It's fine if you don't believe me but repeating the rules of your own jurisdiction is just stupid. — Benkei
The alternative, when it comes to issues of intergenerational justice and so on, is shout and stamp and scream and bash each other over the head. Identify your tribe, find out what your tribe believes, then scream it. — Bartricks
Aren't pledges enforceable or unenforceable? A person can make a pledge to a charitable institution then renege on it. No consequence to the donor, except maybe piss off the would-be recipient. But if the donor received a consideration for their pledge -- say, in the form of naming a building after the donor's name -- then it becomes a contract, which is enforceable. (US contract law). Is this right? — Caldwell
I reject this. Or if you like, prove it. Nor indeed, if I think about it, can I assent to an intuition being an impression. All these words that you try to reduce to one word or one idea, and it just isn't the case.An intuition is a kind of impression, albeit a rational impression, not a visual one. — Bartricks
you forgot to also demand ridiculous amounts of money in compensation for all the bad stuff that happened as a result of the initial crime. — Book273
I reject this. Or if you like, prove it. Nor indeed, if I think about it, can I assent to an intuition being an impression. All these words that you try to reduce to one word or one idea, and it just isn't the case — tim wood
I don't mean to put you into the position of putting up proposals that I just shoot down, but you need to find something that will fly that isn't itself a clay pigeon that is just going to fall anyway. I think the best we're going to do is allow that an intuition is something that surfaces in consciousness from out of the sub- or unconscious, without any good account of it possible. Which means that as argument, it's a no-go. — tim wood
I don't care that you reject it - that's just you expressing yourself, isn't it! Anyway, a debate about what exactly an intuition is - which, no matter what I say about it, you will reject due to the fact I said it - is not on topic. — Bartricks
My friend took the money, moved to Chicago, and never looked back. — Book273
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