PoeticUniverse         
         is best written with great deliberation and attention to meter and, if applicable, to rhyme. — Michael Zwingli
GraveItty         
         
Michael Zwingli         
         
GraveItty         
         
Michael Zwingli         
         Poetry requires more work than what can just go plop in just a live stream of thoughts arising. — PoeticUniverse
T Clark         
         Any specifics concerning "But it is not good poetry?" to make your generalization helpful?
Here is the poem: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/599584 — PoeticUniverse
Your poetry displays/employs a definite "stream of consciousness" style, whether deliberate or accidental. The problem with that, as I have noted above, is that lyric poetry, which truth be told is the type of poetry that Mr. Clark seems to enjoy and so is the proper, tacitly implied focus of this thread, in order to be "good", is best written with great deliberation and attention to meter and, if applicable, to rhyme. — Michael Zwingli
Michael Zwingli         
         There was no "tacit implication" of a particular kind of poetry, only that it be philosophical. — T Clark
T Clark         
         Oh, sorry, man, for putting words into your mouth that you never intended to say. I'm trying to give "Poetic" some constructive criticism, so that he can improve his output. — Michael Zwingli
PoeticUniverse         
         Now physics is nice. Your poems are a welcome addition to it! Are you a physicist yourself? Of course your poems lack humans, as it subject matter is the universe. The Poetic Universe. There is reference made to human affairs. — GraveItty
PoeticUniverse         
         We all have, upon occasion, intense inner experiences associated with places, events, or situations, which we cannot seem to describe adequately to make another person feel what we have felt, and understand what we have understood. A great poet is able to use language in a manner which recalls such experiences, and makes one think, "yes, I have experienced that, but could never describe it". It is the experience upon reading a poem of finding the expression for something profound that one has experienced but never been able to describe. This experience upon reading a poem tends to give someone the "fifty mile stare", and makes a person feel a need to say "...thank you so much..." to the poet. — Michael Zwingli
PoeticUniverse         
         This is a reasonable request. I'll look at what the others have written and see if I have anything to add. — T Clark
PoeticUniverse         
         Pale rugged Winter bending o’er his tread,
His grizzled hair bedropt with icy dew;
His eyes, a dusky light congeal’d and dead,
His robe, a tinge of bright ethereal blue; — Michael Zwingli
PoeticUniverse         
         
Michael Zwingli         
         Very nice, indeed. Thank you for sharing an intimate experience in such an erudite manner.over the field where I walked hang a low blanket of autumn mist. Above it, the head of our dog was better to see than her body. Once in a while she playfully jumped out of the blanket, her full self appearing dark white and blue beneath the extraordinary brightly shining moon. The trees, from which drops and nuts fell sometimes, stood tall and black and frozen, without motion. The silence was screaming, besides the puffs of condensed breath coming from our mouth. — GraveItty
PoeticUniverse         
         Thomas Chatterton, — Michael Zwingli
Michael Zwingli         
         Yep, usually thought to be a suicide secondary to Chatterton's entrapment in poverty, though it has been hypothesized that he was taking a curative for syphilis containing arsenic, and accidentally overdosed himself.He died at 17 by poison. — PoeticUniverse
Yeah, romantically in Greece, fighting for Greek independence.Byron at 35, — PoeticUniverse
PoeticUniverse         
         When golden Autumn, wreathed in riped’d corn,
From purple clusters prest the foamy wine,
Thy genius did his sallow brows adorn,
And made the beauties of the season thine. — Michael Zwingli

Michael Zwingli         
         What?? This is news to me...Graveltty, whose banning I don't understand — PoeticUniverse
PoeticUniverse         
         I just checked under "Bannings", and saw nothing. Where did you hear this? — Michael Zwingli
Noble Dust         
         
PoeticUniverse         
         
T Clark         
         
Noble Dust         
         The strollers out on the street today
Don’t have to believe all men are created equal,
All endowed by their creator with certain rights,
As long as they behave as if they do, — T Clark
T Clark         
         
the affirmation of strife         
         Here, where the world is quiet;
Here, where all trouble seems
Dead winds' and spent waves' riot
In doubtful dreams of dreams;
I watch the green field growing
For reaping folk and sowing,
For harvest-time and mowing,
A sleepy world of streams.
I am tired of tears and laughter,
And men that laugh and weep;
Of what may come hereafter
For men that sow to reap:
I am weary of days and hours,
Blown buds of barren flowers,
Desires and dreams and powers
And everything but sleep.
[...]
Though one were strong as seven,
He too with death shall dwell,
Nor wake with wings in heaven,
Nor weep for pains in hell;
Though one were fair as roses,
His beauty clouds and closes;
And well though love reposes,
In the end it is not well.
[...]
We are not sure of sorrow,
And joy was never sure;
To-day will die to-morrow;
Time stoops to no man's lure;
And love, grown faint and fretful,
With lips but half regretful
Sighs, and with eyes forgetful
Weeps that no loves endure.
From too much love of living,
From hope and fear set free,
We thank with brief thanksgiving
Whatever gods may be
That no life lives for ever;
That dead men rise up never;
That even the weariest river
Winds somewhere safe to sea.
Then star nor sun shall waken,
Nor any change of light:
Nor sound of waters shaken,
Nor any sound or sight:
Nor wintry leaves nor vernal,
Nor days nor things diurnal;
Only the sleep eternal
In an eternal night.
the affirmation of strife         
         I am weary of days and hours,
Blown buds of barren flowers,
Desires and dreams and powers
And everything but sleep.
the affirmation of strife         
         Gather ye roses while ye may,
Old time is still a-flying;
A world where beauty fleets away
Is no world for denying.
Come lads and lasses, fall to play
Lose no more time in sighing
The very flowers you pluck to-day
To-morrow will be dying;
And all the flowers are crying,
And all the leaves have tongues to say,-
Gather ye roses while ye may.
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