They are no longer called proofs. — Frederick KOH
And faith is, by definition, believing in something that is not (yet) proven. You do not have faith in something that you already know to be true. — Samuel Lacrampe
Proofs can be scientific proofs, — Samuel Lacrampe
If you walk into a room that is clean, neat and organized we automatically think of an organizer - the agency of order. — TheMadFool
The human mind, no matter how highly trained, cannot grasp the universe. We are in the position of a little child, entering a huge library whose walls are covered to the ceiling with books in many different tongues. The child knows that someone must have written those books. It does not know who or how. It does not understand the languages in which they are written. The child notes a definite plan in the arrangement of the books, a mysterious order, which it does not comprehend, but only dimly suspects. That, it seems to me, is the attitude of the human mind, even the greatest and most cultured, toward God.
You guys can correct me if I am wrong, but I think as a general rule, an argument is an opinion backed up by reason; and then an argument becomes a proof when it gives certainty, or close to certainty. — Samuel Lacrampe
God is, in essence, a hypothesis aimed at explaining the universe, its origins and workings. — TheMadFool
No excuses for you free-thinking heathens now:
"Automating Godel’s Ontological Proof of God’s Existence ¨
with Higher-order Automated Theorem Provers"
http://page.mi.fu-berlin.de/cbenzmueller/papers/C40.pdf — Frederick KOH
"Modal collapse" is intriguing. — tom
We just need to take one look at Thomas Aquinas, who spent pretty much his whole life coming up with logical arguments for christianity. — Samuel Lacrampe
Arguments for the existence of God are logical, but do not give certainty — Samuel Lacrampe
Deductive arguments yield to conclusions which are only as certain as their premises. I don't know of any deductive arguments for the existence of God which have certain premises. Do you know of any? As a christian, I would like to hear them.inasmuch as they are deductive arguments for the existence of God, then they must be certain. — Thorongil
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