think one time you consider cycles and another time you say there is no cycles. — Nothing
If it is only now, tomorow never comes, past doesnt exist — Nothing
time exist because cycle exist — Nothing
time exist because cycle exist — Nothing
cycles exist because of time — Mww
Time doesnt exist because you have to know time is consequence of pyhsical nature, so you notice time because cycle occur, people know it hapened one day because sun make one cycle, and if you go as deep as you can, you know smth happened because you saw cycle, change happens out of this, and we say this happening: time. — Nothing
I am taking liberties in the sense that I don't claim what I am saying is what Heidegger would say. I don't say the past or future are illusions, but that they exist, as past and future, only now. This does relate to Husserl's notions of retention and protention. Do you think Heidegger would say that dasein, the 'being-there', is now? — Janus
That’s why I’m on this forum, to invite tweaking. But that usually works better with substantive replies and questions than with one-liners. — Joshs
I think this is a matter of presentism and eternalism, with you seemingly argue in favor the the latter.
I think Heidegger would say we don't often thinking about time in this respect -- we're too busy "being" (coping, interacting with, engaging with, "on the way to," etc). — Xtrix
When we are "busy "being" (coping, interacting with, engaging with, "on the way to," etc)" is it not always now that we are doing that? — Janus
What is our life: it’s looking forward or it’s looking back. And that’s our life. That’s it. Where is the moment? — Glengarry, Glen Ross
What is our life: it’s looking forward or it’s looking back. And that’s our life. That’s it. Where is the moment? — Glengarry, Glen Ross
wont you agree, because time we can think, not around ? — Nothing
western people think to much of a thought - it gives all luxuries we have, but how to get deeper ? — Nothing
dont think to much of yourself-i ment me also, — Nothing
But I wasn't proposing any metaphysic, I was trying to speak phenomenologically, which is to try to articulate lived experience. When we are "busy "being" (coping, interacting with, engaging with, "on the way to," etc)" is it not always now that we are doing that? — Janus
What is our life: it’s looking forward or it’s looking back. And that’s our life. That’s it. Where is the moment? — Srap Tasmaner
I know what you're saying, and I wouldn't say "no," I would say it doesn't come up very often. When it does, I can't see a way around what you're claiming. I think there's plenty of truth in it. There is this activity, there is this being, but it's hard to pin down a "now." — Xtrix
I don't say the past or future are illusions, but that they exist, as past and future, only now. This does relate to Husserl's notions of retention and protention. Do you think Heidegger would say that dasein, the 'being-there', is now? — Janus
isn't it true that we experience the past and future only now? — Janus
Without natural cycles, life might be somewhat more dreamlike, chaotic, and it could mean time would also be experienced quite differently. — Srap Tasmaner
Heidegger would agree with you and Husserl that the past and future are not unreal , but rather the having been and future dimensions belong to the now equally with the present dimension. — Joshs
That's it; we cannot pin down a now. I tend to think it's important to be aware of what we are doing in the kind of Buddhist sense of "mindfulness". That's not a presence which can be pinned down, or elaborated into a theory; not a 'thin' present-at-hand kind of presence, but it seems to be the foundation of any examined life,and I can't see phenomenology as important except in this regard. — Janus
Maybe it's off-topic and more in line with Heidegger's idea of authenticity. Do you see that idea as being related to his treatment of being? — Janus
What more is there to being than the way people behave? — frank
You would lose the uncertainty of how it was approached at the beginning, — Valentinus
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