How about eliminating advertising? Credit cards? mortgages? private cars? Credit cards, home loans, auto loans, education loans — Bitter Crank
This is why progressive nations need to put working hours caps into legislature: the preference for employers would be to have a smaller staff working longer hours: it keeps wages low, because there's a queue of people after your job. — Kenosha Kid
which seems to acknowledge the need for change. But you also seem to reject any answer that would require change. — Kenosha Kid
I think there should be more radical change. — schopenhauer1
The very system it is looking at is built on the norms that it promotes.. You can never get out of its own self-induced models. — schopenhauer1
I am just trying to push people along, give them the opposing view, get to a place where everything is considered. — schopenhauer1
Ah okay, I thought that was just you being a pessimist. — Kenosha Kid
I think there should be more radical change. Income and employment should be severed. — schopenhauer1
How does this synchronize with antinatalism? — baker
Better their incongruity, though than any extant version of leftism, whose devotees look to be the last champions of work, for if there were no work there would be no workers, and without workers, who would the left have to organize? — Abolition of Work, Bob Black
I have no problem imagining people raising issues that are, well, plain as the nose their faces but this matter of the workweek, only a person to whom details matter and who's genuinely interested in the welfare of people will notice. You're the real McCoy, I can tell you that. You should stand for president. — TheMadFool
If you ask me, there's something horribly wrong with the 5 day workweek and 2 day weekend format. It seems to have been copy-pasted from a divine, Godly, work scehdule. God, as we all know, is omnipotent and we, lowly mortals, are, as far as I can tell, not! Something's off, don't you think? — TheMadFool
I genuinely don't understand why an antinatalist would care about any worldly cause. If life as such is so bad that it would be better to never have lived at all, then why care about anything? — baker
Reduce the work week for your employees. If people see that it works or is beneficial or gives you advantage, they might try to adopt it. — NOS4A2
Antinatalism comes in handy for young people trying to do this. Raising a family pretty much forces one to work however much one can, and that still might not be enough, — Bitter Crank
Is this sarcastic? — schopenhauer1
It's off because people have no imagination and fear change. Your mortgage says, "Can't fight it!". — schopenhauer1
Antinatalism comes in handy for young people trying to do this. — Bitter Crank
:up:... plutocratic kleptocracy ... power of the Plutonic-kleptocrats ... — Bitter Crank
The lessons of TQM. Greek hoplites in phalanx formation and modern managers in Total Quality Management know the same thing, that the better and the worse both are the enemy of the good, the good being the goal all are working toward. Not the right lesson for all endeavors, but a lesson that ought to be taught before being blind-sided by it.Even worse: when efficiency is punished, — Book273
... I recommend people who can do so, reduce their needs and wants so that they can keep themselves afloat on less the 40 hours per week, maybe 30, maybe 25. This is no easy thing, especially after 40 years of inflation and stagnant wages. It's like unto impossible in high-cost areas, like San Francisco, NYC, LA, Washington D.C., Boston, etc. — Bitter Crank
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