I can't tell the difference between mass delusions/hallucinations and objectivity. — TheMadFool
Mass delusion is when all your followers kill themselves, expecting the world to end as you told them. Objectivity is when you find out who your cell-mate is. — Cuthbert
Yes. Ideal metaphors usually have some concrete counterpart in the real world that it refers to as a crude approximation of the abstraction in the mind. That's how we communicate images in our minds to other minds. They can look at the concrete object and form an approximate idea of what I'm imagining. However, if I show them a brain "gyrus" (something that loops back on itself) they won't understand what I mean by "self" or "ego" or "i".You consider the ego as a mental thing. I don't. . . .
. . . . .So the strange loop is a metaphorical loop, but at the same time it has a material counterpart in the brain. Looking at yoursel mentally will lead to inwardly radiating droste effects. — Cartuna
Yes. A picture is worth a thousand philosophical metaphors. :smile:↪Gnomon
I like the images you post. I wish we could do this for all of philosophy. Pictures have a certain quality to them that allows them to get a point across in ways that words somehow can't. — TheMadFool
The only difference is in the metaphorical interpretation of the mental image : i.e. what it means to you.I can't tell the difference between mass delusions/hallucinations and objectivity. — TheMadFool
Apparently, you think of the Ego as a material object. Where is the Ego in this picture of a "physical thing"? Hint : there are lots of "strange loops" (gyri) in the picture. :joke: — Gnomon
Interesting! How would you describe that "strange" neither-here-nor-there "boundary" -- metaphorically, of course. That's the beauty of metaphors, they help us to form our own personal images of the imaginary objects in other minds. Sometimes, the communication solution is to assume that a coin has two sides that we can't see simultaneously, That ambiguity requires us to do some mental (metaphorical) flipping. :smile:I think the ego is neither material neither mental. It lies at the boundary between them. So in a way it's both. Strange loops I see! — Cartuna
That's the beauty of metaphors, they help us to form our own personal images of the imaginary objects in other minds. — Gnomon
'I' in the sense of it being the cohesive centre of experiences and it appears to exist throughout life, as the central focus in human identity. — Jack Cummins
I wonder why does each of have an 'I' as an aspect of consciousness, or self consciousness? Are human beings the only living beings with a sense of 'I'? — Jack Cummins
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