Our current justice system sometimes allows for the guilty to go free and sometimes convicts the innocent. These are simply unavoidable evils, and in lieu of a more practical alternative, is something we just have to accept. And the same is true of our COVID regulations. — Michael
Here's another question for you, since it's clear not enough people will distance our take a vaccination, how do you propose to deal with the fall out that causes? Eg. overrun healthcare systems.
I cannot see it like you because I’m left wondering how someone like you or me “gives rise” to a 30 zone, as if I had any hand in legislation. — NOS4A2
Do I give rise to a 70 zone if I drive too slow? — NOS4A2
As for rights, I speak only of the negative rights, not the positive privileges. — NOS4A2
But what if the overwhelming majority who do not kill or injure others? — NOS4A2
So if you believe in positive rights such as the right to healthcare, welfare, employment, you also believe in the duty to provide them. — NOS4A2
So if you believe in the right to free speech, conscience, liberty, you also believe in the duty to refrain from suppressing them. — NOS4A2
You've obviously never met an Libertarian and only understand Libertarianism as it has been provided to you by others that don't understand it either. Plutocracy is plutocracy. Libertarianism is libertarianism. They are two distinct ideas.Libertarianism is a cover for plutocracy. Most are just corporatists. All are capitalists through and through.
But if you want to go on believing the standard lines about “freedom,” you’re welcome. — Xtrix
You've obviously never met an Libertarian and only understand Libertarianism as it has been provided to you by others that don't understand it either. — Harry Hindu
Even self-proclaimed libertarians still try to dictate to others how to live their lives, so by definition they aren't libertarians. — Harry Hindu
If you are equating libertarianism with plutocracy — Harry Hindu
Libertarianism is a cover for plutocracy. — Xtrix
then what is the label you assign to those that believe individualism trumps collectivism and that everyone should be able to live their lives the way they want as long as it doesn't restrict others from doing the same? — Harry Hindu
If it walks, talks, and acts like a duck...Yes, “obviously” that has to be true. — Xtrix
A person taking one side of a false dichotomy. — Xtrix
that everyone should be able to live their lives the way they want as long as it doesn't restrict others from doing the same? — Harry Hindu
Libertarianism is a cover for plutocracy. Most are just corporatists. All are capitalists through and through. — Xtrix
If it walks, talks, and acts like a duck... — Harry Hindu
One should not exercise a right that would infringe on the rights of others. — NOS4A2
As for rights, in my view no right shall be infringed. — NOS4A2
Only the state gets to legislate. In the absence of referendum the “people” have had no say in any of it. — NOS4A2
Perhaps it is noble that Trumpists are willing to die for their beliefs? — praxis
Are you suggesting that individual-collective is a false dichotomy? — Merkwurdichliebe
I’m talking about what one should or should not do. — NOS4A2
Indirect democracy can do no better than to legitimize authority and give a man or party the right to control us and steal the fruits of our labour. Representative democracy is democratic in name only. — NOS4A2
the solution to overrun healthcare systems are better healthcare systems — NOS4A2
It seems to me that we were promised something that they are unable to deliver. — NOS4A2
Given the denial of rights and other sacrifices the tax-payer has to make — NOS4A2
we are also left to pay for these shortcomings, sometimes with our lives and livelihoods. — NOS4A2
Even the mask mandates and vaccine passports are left to the tax-payer to enforce at their own expense. — NOS4A2
That’s not the case. Where I live, if the business doesn’t enforce the government edicts, it is subject to fine. No individual gets to decide on any of this. This is just another example of the government skirting its duties, working around human rights, and forcing the burden on citizens. — NOS4A2
The government is forcing businesses with the threat of fine. The edict is the imposition. There is no “allowing” involved here. — NOS4A2
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