How is this not a new world order? — Book273
The point of the mandates is to segregate the vaccinated and unvaccinated, not the infected and the uninfected. — NOS4A2
↪Cheshire Covid would be considered a plague. The response created a new world order. Just because I am unconcerned about Covid does not mean everyone is. The fear out there is real, as are the steps taken to remain safe from the perceived threat. The world has changed based on these perceptions. The validity of the base is no longer relevant, it is the reality now. — Book273
except used as a political football because lying outright is no longer disqualifying apparently — Cheshire
Folk need to learn to accept responsibility for their choices... — Banno
2 years of coping with the pandemic and, how for many, it is has turned life upside down — Jack Cummins
I will assume it's just a very long haul of the same debate, same restrictions, vaccinations and coronapassports until it fiddles out like the War on Terror.I am really wondering what comes next. — Jack Cummins
So I’m going to tell people to get vaccinated, am not morally responsible if it harms them, and won’t pay them any kind of compensation if it does. — Michael
Perhaps in 2030 when you go to your local medical center, you'll still see some signs about how to prevent COVID-19. And people won't bother about it, but likely many won't shake hands anymore. I assume that will happen: the World will be a colder place with less physical contact with people you don't know. Hand shaking is then such an old gesture then, I guess. Just like the gesture of a man kissing the hand of a woman, it will perhaps become too theatrical. — ssu
I ask you to please consider this: if you given a choice to play Russian roulette with a loaded machine gun with 1999 live bullets and 1 blank; or else with a machine gun with 1999 blanks and 1 live bullet; which machine gun will you choose? — god must be atheist
No. It is overwhelmingly the unvaccinated - those who choose not to act in their own and the community's best interest; and children.
Don't bitch about something that is entirely in your control. If you don't like being cast out, get vaccinated. — Banno
The rules permit that a person infected with this disease can congregate with the uninfected,
— NOS4A2
No, they don't. — Banno
The vaccinated folk get a cold. The unvaccinated folk get to go to the ICU. — Banno
If the consequence of congregating is a cold, then there is little need to slow the spread. Any rules still standing are only there to protect the unvaccinated. — Banno
I question the efficacy of the vaccine. Yes, a whole bunch of people are going to call me names for it, but seriously consider: Vaccination for small pox= no more small pox. Vaccination for measles= no more measles. Same for polio; chicken pox, mumps. You get my point.
Then comes covid...
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After achieving fully vaccinated status : Mask, social distance, limit movement (domestic and international), decrease social interaction, work from home when possible. Virus spreading, people dying. — Book273
They admitted to a counter disinformation operation that targeted a few domestic social media users. Considering disinformation was crippling to the initial hopes of preventing an endemic phase; getting out in front of it does seem like a good idea and within the scope of national security. It just backfired pretty bad , based on what a 5 min google search turns up.Yes. The problem now is what to believe, for everyone. Our military (Canada) admitted that in the early stages of the pandemic (spring 2020) they saw, and acted upon, an opportunity to use Covid as a propaganda experiment. They admitted this, it is not theoretical. — Book273
They tried to subvert the public conversation and couldn't manage it for more than 3 months? Doesn't sound like much of a threat in general and nearly irrelevant a year later. There's plenty of work that has been done by epidemiologist, so I don't really have any issue finding reliable sources of information.This is our government and for some reason, I am supposed believe the shit they shovel my way? — Book273
DO EXACTLY THE SAME THING AGAIN. Including the wipeout. Landed at exactly the same spot, even bleeding into the dried puddle of his own, 12 hour old, blood. What should we do with this idiot, and others like him? They aren't exactly rare. — Book273
SO we have one principle: Limit the exposure of the population to those who are infected or likely to be infected
This gives us two policies:
Isolate the infected and those who are likely to be infected
Spare the population from exposure to the unvaccinated
That's sensible, no stupid.
A private establishment chooses to statistically reduce the risk to it's staff and patrons. Discriminatory? If one's identity is dependant on resisting public health measures, then it's probably a good time to take a little inventory about what really matters.In the hands of a stupid government the principle gives us a stupid policy. When a fully vaccinated but infected man shows up at a establishment with a vaccine passport, he gets let in, increasing the likelihood of spread and illness. A vaccine passport does not indicate health or antibodies, and it is terribly discriminatory. — NOS4A2
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