But you didn't make any point at all. I wish you would. — magritte
Lack of social distancing is the superspreader, and that's regardless of any variant of COVID or any other communicable disease.
College campuses are social gatherings, students are there to socialize, and it's this lack of social distancing aspect that the university is addressing. — magritte
The omicron variant has been identified in two coronavirus cases in a Hong Kong quarantine hotel where scientists believe the virus spread through the air in a hallway.
No, the main problem is that the vaccine is a poison making those who take it vulnerable to the new variant. — Isaac
...or
...we could cite our sources and have a proper conversation. — Isaac
I find myself trying to protect those around me at a time when booster vaccinations are available but in short supply, while the wider community is engaging in activities that can only lead to greater spread. The return to "normality" posses a very real threat to vulnerable folk. As I pointed out to Tom Storm, open policies will result in the deaths of first nations folk, the homeless and other low social status folk, the sick, the disabled, the elderly and children. That is, it is a form of passive eugenics.
Avoiding those outcomes ought be a high priority, even above combating the greed of Pfizer and friends and the stupidity of governments. — Banno
if people are falling for misinformation, and we care about that, it's on us to make the information more convincing. That's what I see transparency as doing, that's what I see reasonable debate as doing - making the crucial key message more convincing. — Isaac
Information about Covid-19 will continue to be valuable for people who are interested in being vaccinated and just need more data. But that may be only a small portion of the unvaccinated population now. If disbelief in the importance of vaccination is the primary barrier to reaching the country’s vaccination goals, more information is unlikely to work.
Our past research has also shown that more information often isn’t enough to change behavior. A classic example is doctors who struggle to follow the same medical advice that they give to patients. Despite doctors’ extensive training and access to medical information, as a group, they are barely better than patients at sticking to recommendations for improving their health. This includes vaccinations. Rates of chickenpox vaccination among doctors’ children, for example, are not meaningfully different from the rates among children whose parents are not doctors. While most parents vaccinate their children against chickenpox, you would expect the rates among doctors’ families to be especially high.
What interventions might work? Behavioral science research suggests that one of the best ways to motivate behavior is through incentives, either positive or negative. Incentives work because they do not force people to change their beliefs. A customer might switch cellphone providers not because he believes the new provider is better, but because the new provider is offering a free iPhone to switch (a positive incentive). A teenager might come home before curfew on a Saturday night not because she believes it’s dangerous to be out late, but because she knows her parents will take away her car keys if she stays out past midnight (a negative incentive).
While small positive incentives such as free doughnuts or entries into statewide lottery programs may have motivated some people, those and similar methods don’t seem to motivate people to get vaccinated on a scale large enough to close the vaccination gap.
The incentive that seems to work especially well is the employer vaccine mandate, a negative incentive. “Get vaccinated or get fired” has shown to be an effective message. United Airlines, which mandated the coronavirus vaccination for its employees this past summer, reported in November that 100 percent of their customer-facing employees were vaccinated, and that only about 200 of their 67,000 employees had chosen termination over vaccination. Similar stories have played out among private and public sector employers that enforce mandates, with vaccination rates approaching 100 percent (including at our own hospital).
By now, it’s clear that the public health system does not know how to change people’s beliefs about vaccines. Until we do, America’s leaders should focus on other strategies, especially the ones we already know are effective.
Warren, who had received three shots of a coronavirus vaccine, added that she was experiencing only mild symptoms and was “grateful for the protection provided against serious illness that comes from being vaccinated & boosted.”
Booker said Sunday that he first felt symptoms the previous day and that they were “relatively mild.”
“I’m beyond grateful to have received two doses of vaccine and, more recently a booster — I’m certain that without them I would be doing much worse,” Booker said in a statement.
Our powerful corporate and political (but I repeat myself) masters, through their ownership and control of media and their infiltration of the education system, have really done a number on the populace. — Xtrix
Opioids make life saving surgery possible. Modern medicine is among the greatest accomplishments of the species and you think a few cases of abuse make it entirely evil. That's ridiculous. — frank
I haven't even mentioned modern medicine. — Isaac
Corporations gather round the things we need. — frank
What does this have to do with whether people should get vaccinated? — frank
Our powerful corporate and political (but I repeat myself) masters, through their ownership and control of media and their infiltration of the education system, have really done a number on the populace.
— Xtrix
Bullshit. — Isaac
The point is, the corporate interest driving government, media and scientific responses is overwhelmingly pro-vaccine. — Isaac
Either way, the idea that the anti-vax movement is the major player here, — Isaac
Then goes on to cite the pharmaceutical companies. :lol:
I think you missed the point. — Xtrix
we're losing the battle of education, knowledge, facts, information, communication, etc. — Xtrix
Our powerful corporate and political (but I repeat myself) masters, through their ownership and control of media and their infiltration of the education system, have really done a number on the populace. — Xtrix
When 20 or 30 percent — being conservative — refuse vaccination, I’d say that’s become a major player, yeah. — Xtrix
Corporate media and social media (but I repeat myself) are leading more and more people into conspiracies and bogus beliefs and into silos. That is clear. — Xtrix
Meanwhile we have a pandemic to deal with — jorndoe
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