they tell you that they're referring to whether or not it's raining — Michael
I'm not going to continue this game forever. — Michael
When people say things like "it's raining", they mean that they have a belief that it's raining (in this case, one they're very confident in ,one with good justifications. — Isaac
when people say things like "it's raining" they mean that it's raining. — Michael
What does the "it's raining" part of "I believe that it's raining" mean? — Michael
When people say things like "it's raining", they mean that they have a belief that it's raining (in this case, one they're very confident in ,one with good justifications. — Isaac
Nothing at all. — Isaac
What does 'for a quick' mean in "I'm going to go for a quick walk now"?
What does 'for a nice' mean in "It's about time for a nice cup of tea"? — Isaac
I would disagree. Its raining is an axiomatic statement based on an independent variable. That is, it is independent from belief. If it was a belief, they would pose it as an opinion such as: I think it is raining. Calling water falling from the sky a "good justification" for a belief that it is, in fact raining is a bit of an understatement. — john27
People have a confusing tendency to say "I believe X" when exhibiting doubt or a granting concession that one might be wrong - the very opposite qualities to the supposed meaning of "belief".
Also, a person's spoken beliefs often belie their actions. — sime
But "a quick walk" and "a nice cup of tea" have a meaning. — Michael
No, you believe it is raining. — john27
If it was a belief, they would pose it as an opinion such as: I think it is raining. — john27
If it was a belief, they would pose it as an opinion such as: I think it is raining. — john27
And "it's raining" has a meaning too, but not within "I believe it's raining". — Isaac
I can believe 1+1 is 2, and believe that it is correct; that doesn't change the fact its an axiomatic statement independent of belief. — john27
it is positively possible that the supposed fact is currently enacted. — john27
Do you really struggle that much with the idea of things seeming to other people to be different to the way they seem to you? — Isaac
I can believe 1+1 is 2, and believe that it is correct; that doesn't change the fact its an axiomatic statement independent of belief. — john27
I'm not the center of the universe. — john27
And as I'm the one arguing this and you're the one arguing against this, I'm right and you're wrong. — Michael
Could you join the dots any further. I don't see how you not being the centre of the universe determines what "1+1=2" means. — Isaac
I can believe 1+1 is 2, and believe that it is correct; that doesn't change the fact its an axiomatic statement independent of belief. — john27
When did I say that I determine that 1+1=2? — john27
I am insignificant in its apparent truth. it is not reliant, on me, or anyone whatsoever. — john27
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