I still don't see from this why it's repugnant. Why should science legislate and organize society? That's just the same as god doing that — EugeneW
Most people in the world believe God exists. But like God once ruled the day, so is science nowadays. It's what you are obliged to learn at school and Dawkins, Harris, Dennet, etc. try to get rid of that idea altogether. I don't think science will replace it, but the powers that rule have abandoned it. Well, of course there are political parties and partisan vwith religious flavors, but that's all it is. A flavor. The world and is managed on the basis of science. But what's so important about it that gives it that right? — EugeneW
post-religious views, in contrast, are future and creativity oriented. We are brought intimately in touch with the sources of moral good, because they are right in front of us as our being with others in time. — Joshs
it does not matter how much individual humans are comforted by the idea of a supernatural superhero, who cares about them and will offer them life after death if they do this or that, if it turns out that it's complete bullshit. — universeness
People are always attracted to what makes them feel good but do you not agree that truth is more important than what makes you feel good? — universeness
They present an atheism that rejects science worship. — Joshs
maybe you guys are such reactionaries to the notion because you are afraid. — theRiddler
I hope I have made myself clear that I fear only the 'loss of my current existence and how it will happen,' I do not fear oblivion(non-awareness) or the threat of being judged by a non-existent supernatural F***wit and the threat of suffering forever in hell. — universeness
God is merely of the gaps in our knowledge. — universeness
One can be a singing and writing painting counselor, visiting college in between running around from girl to girl, teach in the evenings, and build body in the weekends. While experiencing God. — EugeneW
For me, God is synonymous with the simple idea that there may be vastly higher orders of intelligence. I wouldn't expect It to reveal itself everywhere or subjugate people to its power, either. Nor to erase pain and suffering from existence. — theRiddler
What matters is that the person who discovers it is bullshit is disappointed and mourns the loss of this faith. — Joshs
The role that science plays is useful, needless to say, and the roll that religion plays is also useful, however they are not useful in the same way, right? Do you agree? — praxis
Not every religion threatens with hell — EugeneW
What if all gaps are closed? — EugeneW
That's nice, though I don't see what God has got to do with intelligence. Maybe they know nothing in the way we do, have no power at all like we do, and are they mean in our metrics (just because they created the universe).
So? Even more reason to not be afraid! — universeness
Fred would be just as acceptable. — universeness
But I think the universe at large is this superintelligence, that everything is one, and, truly, nothing is completely subjective. — theRiddler
The role that science plays is useful, needless to say, and the roll that religion plays is also useful, however they are not useful in the same way, right? Do you agree?
— praxis
Yes. Science can't explain that the universe and all in it is there. It only says how stuff inside it behaves without knowing its nature or its origin. You can close all gaps, but that doesn't explain that of which you close the gap. — EugeneW
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