as a work of art it must 1st be able to stand on its own as a work of art. — Cavacava
She represents more of that silly feminist, social justice, anti-capitalist nonsense that will do and change absolutely nothing — Thorongil
So, the origin of the project was not anti-capitalist. The folks who put it there are all about capitalism. On the other hand — Bitter Crank
A rallying cry for the occupy potheads and the like.
Not sure I understand what you are saying here, are you suggesting that women are treated equitably in corporate America? — Cavacava
Doesn't this symbolic confrontation point to the shame of the social injustice inveighed against women in corporate America? — Cavacava
Picasso is not selling an anti-war message, he's revealing one in a unique way - the idea is primary but it works in harmony with the form. So, I don’t think that the idea being primary is the issue here; the idea must in a sense always be primary, but it must work within the expression such that it reveals rather than merely commands. And what it reveals must be of value. Picasso does this, Banksy does this, Orwell does this, etc. — Baden
As I mentioned above, I agree that if the motivation is to sell an idea - instrumental reason - then you don’t get art - the artistic potential gets crushed under the jackboot of ideology. However, the impetus for art may be anything including the political. It doesn't have to be a case that it just happens. Guernica was painted in response to the bombing of the town of the same name. It wasn't entirely spontaneous. That the pressure that pushes the artist's fingers to the keyboard, or hand to the chisel, or paintbrush across the canvas is a wonder, fear, or disgust of a political nature no more negates the final product than any other impetus as long as the art speaks for itself, has its own voice, and is not merely an echo of some prevailing wind that its creator wishes to amplify. — Baden
I am not very knowledgeable about visual art, which is why I chose an example from music. Perhaps the reason Mozart does not astonish you is because you have the mirror image limitation wrt music. I am certainly astonished by him. — andrewk
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