But how can Putin get out of this? — Count Timothy von Icarus
Perhaps he will take a more logical approach. He will focus on securing the gas fields in the east and a smaller area around his new "republics," declare victory, and end the war. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Long term, around 2100, I wouldn't be totally shocked by these borders. Mandate of heaven indeed. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Bear in mind this is a Mercator projection. — Changeling
Definition of justification
1
a: the act or an instance of justifying something : VINDICATION
arguments offered in justification of their choice
b: an acceptable reason for doing something : something that justifies an act or way of behaving
could provide no justification for his decision — Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Ukraine is bigger than what is shown on the standard map of the world (Mercator projection)
USA is more than half the size of Russia
China is one and a half times the size of the USA. — FreeEmotion
Should he have just focused on Kiev instead of surrounding the whole country? — frank
Putin pushes a propaganda narrative to justify his actions, there's no reality to that narrative. Why can't people understand this? — Christoffer
And which of the conflicts would reject my hypothesis? — ssu
the claim "There is a Neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine" needs to be proven. — neomac
the role of right-wing radicals on both sides has on the whole been exaggerated — neomac
Russia’s use of right-wing radicals on the side of the “separatists” in Donetsk and Lugansk provinces had greater military and political repercussions than the involvement of Ukrainian far-right groups — neomac
I didn't talk about existence — neomac
the claim "There is a Neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine" needs to be proven. — neomac
☐ Prominent Russians join protests against Ukraine war amid 1,800 arrests (Feb 25, 2022)
☐ A few members of the Russian Parliament speak out against the war. (Feb 28, 2022)
☐ Ukraine: Russian opposition to the invasion is giving Putin cause for alarm (Mar 4, 2022)
☐ More than 4,300 people arrested at anti-war protests across Russia (Mar 6, 2022)
Individuals crossed off the list:
☑ Alexander Litvinenko (Nov 23, 2006), and then more testing was implemented at airports
☑ Here’s a list of Putin critics who've ended up dead (Mar 11, 2016)
Some crossed off the list a while back:
☑ Putin pulls plug on last critical TV channel (Jun 23, 2003)
☑ Russia's Last Independent TV Station Broadcasts 'Swan Lake' in Nod to History Before Going Dark (Mar 4, 2022) — jorndoe
Alexander Valterovich Litvinenko[a] (30 August 1962[2] or 4 December 1962[3] – 23 November 2006) was a British-naturalised Russian defector and former officer of the Russian Federal Security Service (FSB) who specialised in tackling organized crime.
In November 1998, Litvinenko and several other FSB officers publicly accused their superiors of ordering the assassination of the Russian oligarch Boris Berezovsky. Litvinenko was arrested the following March on charges of exceeding the authority of his position. He was acquitted in November 1999 but re-arrested before the charges were again dismissed in 2000. He fled with his family to London and was granted asylum in the United Kingdom, where he worked as a journalist, writer and consultant for the British intelligence services. — Wikipedia
"]The Washington DC medical examiner's office has just confirmed that former Russian press minister Mikhail Lesin died of "blunt force trauma to the head."
Lesin, who founded the English-language television network Russia Today (RT) was found dead in a Washington, DC, hotel room in November 2015. — Business Insider
.The Daily Beast reports that before his death, Lesin was considering making a deal with the FBI to protect himself from corruption charges — Wikipedia
And stop throwing the VDV into unsupported raids. You'd almost think a leader there must be suspected of planning a coup with how they are throwing them away. — Count Timothy von Icarus
Because it's categorically not true. There is a Neo-Nazi problem in Ukraine. There's an even bigger far-right problem, and a bigger still nationalist/racist problem. — Isaac
The fact that Putin's lying about it being the reason for his invasion does not make it cease to exist.
The fact that Putin's lying about it being the reason for his invasion does not make it best we never mention it and actively suppress all such talk. — Isaac
What it does mean is that it might represent a good diplomatic lever in any peace negotiations. Being his stated aim (diplomatically), we have to be seen to be addressing it (diplomatically), for him to be able to back down. — Isaac
Likewise if you think peace talks have to create a lasting state of harmony to work. A day's ceasefire is a huge humanitarian win. — Isaac
In your blind polemicism you're triggered by every mention of the word 'Neo-Nazi' to assume the person is agreeing with Putin. We're talking about the process of a diplomatic route to peace. I know for warmongers like you that's an anathema, but others prefer to advocate stopping the death and destruction as quickly as possible by whatever means. — Isaac
Bigger than what? The US? What about all other nations with far-right problems, especially in Europe? This is Putin's narrative getting to your head, making Ukraine worse than any other nation with a far-right problem. — Christoffer
Not to mention all connections Putin and Russia have to far-right movements in other nations. — Christoffer
There's no reason to talk about a problem in a country where the entire infrastructure and living conditions are war. — Christoffer
There's no diplomacy around his propaganda reasons. You cannot sit down in peace talks and use made-up reasons for a ceasefire since that's not the reason he's in Ukraine. You cannot bargain with reasons that even he himself knows are untrue. — Christoffer
How do you use made-up ideas when everyone around the table of peace talks knows it's all bullshit? — Christoffer
But even if it's met, it's a problem that is impossible to meet. — Christoffer
Putin doesn't care about any of that. — Christoffer
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