Are you saying that "I" learned how to walk, or my motor cortex did? — Bitter Crank
Yes, but I can focus on each breath I take and and change the rate of my breathing. — Bitter Crank
That's simple. I'd be dreaming, just as if I were hallucinating, I'd be hallucinating. I wouldn't be aware, though. That term is reserved for actual knowledge and realization being acquired. I honestly don't see what's so difficult here. I guess some people just can't bring themselves to admit that another might have a better explanation. That's a shame.Ok, Harry, I'm done, here. You find the appropriate word to express your relation to your dreams. — unenlightened
But I was conscious of the details of walking when I was learning how to walk. I don't know how many times I have said this and you continue to overlook it."You" learned how to walk; the learning was largely accomplished in the motor cortex (which is part of "you"). "You" were never 'conscious' of the details of walking (proprioception, balance, adjustment of back, abdominal, and extremity muscle groups, etc.) but the conscious "you" was aware that you were moving about, and shared in the excitement, the pride, the thrill of moving about. — Bitter Crank
I'd be dreaming, just as if I were hallucinating, I'd be hallucinating. I wouldn't be aware, though. — Harry Hindu
My conscious mind could only regard this, at the time, as me just wanting to get at the best interpretation. Later, after facing some of my own issues, I realized what was really going on, and why I had had extra emotions in that discussion. I have experienced this kind of thing in all sorts of relationship discussions, where desires and desires not to notice these desires were not conscious at the time, but definitely present. — Coben
Isn't a desire by its very nature something you're aware of? What would it mean to have an unconscious desire? I have a desire for X, but I'm unaware of it. If I am aware of it, then it's not unconscious. — Sam26
An unconscious desire would be some motivation you're not aware of that influences your behavior. The psychological explanation is that what we are conscious of is only the tip of the iceberg as to what actually causes our behavior. — Marchesk
I either have a desire or I don't, and if I'm not aware of a desire how can it be a desire? — Sam26
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