"Greatest intellectual", that's a stretch. "A while now"? Like what, sixty years? That's a pretty good legacy. Imagine if he was born in Russia, criticizing the policies of his him country like that. He probably wouldn't have lasted for sixty days. It's a real nice life being a great proponent of freedom of speech, when you live in a country which allows it. — Metaphysician Undercover
But of course we could talk about one if not the most obscenely rich and powerful, Vladimir Putin. — ssu
Chomsky has condemned this Russian war clearly and unequivocally. — Manuel
The U.S. has begun quietly preparing for a Ukrainian government in exile although it’s unlikely that that would be led Zelensky, who seems intent on staying in Kiev. Presumably his would-be successor has already left the capital for the relative safety of Lviv in the west or even Poland, ready to lead Ukraine from a distance if Zelensky is assassinated. — Hot Air
.(CNN)US and European officials have been discussing how the West would support a government in exile helmed by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky should he have to flee Kyiv, Western officials told CNN.
The discussions have ranged from supporting Zelensky and top Ukrainian officials in a potential move to Lviv in western Ukraine, to the possibility that Zelensky and his aides are forced to flee Ukraine altogether and establish a new government in Poland, the officials said — CNN
US and Europe weigh plans for Ukrainian government in exile
By Natasha Bertrand and Kylie Atwood, CNN
Updated 0637 GMT (1437 HKT) March 7, 2022 — CNN
Putin will never compromise. You can’t negotiate with terrorism. — Wayfarer
Since the deal on the table represents what is de facto the case already, it's nothing short of warmongering for agents outside of Ukraine to be encouraging them continue their defence instead of taking it. — Isaac
if Putin leaves this conflict with whatever territories he want — Olivier5
it would give incentives for people to invade their neighbour the world over. — Olivier5
Territories he already has. — Isaac
And if Putin wins with NATO powerless to stop it? — Isaac
That he already sized by war, yes — Olivier5
If Putin won this war, it would have the same effect as the Soviet suppression of the 1956 revolution in Budapest, or the invasion of Czechoslovakia in 1968: quash democratic aspirations in this part of the world for a generation. — Olivier5
Nope. I think that's a bad thing. — Olivier5
If Ukraine fights on, it has some reasonable hope of regaining territory and forcing its will onto Putin — Olivier5
I suppose that is why they keep it on. — Olivier5
f Putin leaves this conflict with whatever territories he wants, it would give incentives for people to invade their neighbour the world over. — Olivier5
NATO is not willing to get involved — Olivier5
Such justification needs a little more than a balance of probabilities over some guesswork as to long-term consequences. — Isaac
'Good luck with that.' he ironises. — unenlightened
Perhaps a free society is worth dying for, worth risking nuclear war for? — unenlightened
So Ukraine's win will result in a 'free society'? How has that in any way sidestepped the "balance of probabilities over some guesswork as to long-term consequences"? — Isaac
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.