Sweet fuckin' Jeezus. :roll:Atheism is if anything a product of the Bible, a rejection of religion. — Gregory A
Suppose atheism claims only that 'theism is not true', that – regardless of whether or not there is a theistic deity – what is said in religious texts and believed 'about some deity' is demonstrably not true. Does such a formulation of atheism make more sense to you?To me atheism does not make sense. What it tells me is, atheists don't believe in something that never existed in the first place. — L'éléphant
"The Riddle of Epicurus", circa 3rd century BCE. No reference to the Hebrew scriptures and nearly seven centuries before the Christian Bible and over nine centuries before the Qur'an. Hopefully you're not allergic to a short wiki article on "the history of atheism": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism :chin:Atheists dwell on the Bible, so unless you can produce some of these 'pre-bible' atheists, well.... — Gregory A
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. — a pigmy
Atheism is if anything a product of the Bible, a rejection of religion.
— Gregory A
Sweet fuckin' Jeezus. :roll:
Atheism preceeded the Bible by millennia and every religion that rejects worship all deities entails atheism with respect to those unworshipped deities. So, on these two points alone, your post is grossly uninformed and thereby "invalid" itself.
To me atheism does not make sense. What it tells me is, atheists don't believe in something that never existed in the first place.
— L'éléphant
Suppose atheism claims only that 'theism is not true', that – regardless of whether or not there is a theistic deity – what is said in religious texts and believed 'about some deity' is demonstrably not true. Does such a formulation of atheism make more sense to you? — 180 Proof
Atheists dwell on the Bible, so unless you can produce some of these 'pre-bible' atheists, well....
— Gregory A
"The Riddle of Epicurus", circa 3rd century BCE. No reference to the Hebrew scriptures and nearly eight centuries before the Christian Bible and eleven ceenturies before the Quran. Hopefully you're not allergic to a short wiki article on "the history of atheism": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_atheism :chin: — 180 Proof
Atheism is a belief, a fairy tale, a myth — EugeneW
Theism deals with reality, with the beings that live in an eternal parallel world, who, by ingenious design or accidentally, created spacetime in its eternity and infinity, the basic stuff in it, and the laws according to which it behaves. — EugeneW
Atheism as a non-belief in something never shown to exist is intangible in itself
Atheism is if anything a product of the Bible, a rejection of religion.
Theism offers an explanation for our existence, atheism offers no explanations of its own, a weaker position.
Naturalism is the counter-position to theism
atheism occupying a non-existent middle ground
If atheism were valid, atheists would not be able to open their mouths.
Atheism is in being a-theistic making them a-theists.
The invalidity of atheism does not validate theism, as naturalism may still be right, but atheism needs to be invalid for theism to be right.
Anyhow, why should we listen to those who reject a God (a relatively simple addon) but then continue to believe in mermaids, unicorns etc.
Atheism is a rejection of free-speech (primarily another element of the Left).
A god hypothesis would require atheism to be invalid. We look and that is what we see. Atheism as a non-belief in something never shown to exist is intangible in itself. Atheism is if anything a product of the Bible, a rejection of religion. — Gregory A
The atheist believes in the fairy tale that no gods exist. So it's a belief. Do they have demonstrate of any of this? I think not. — EugeneW
Sure, what method did you use to show Zeus doesn't exist? Ill just use that one. — DingoJones
I don't believe in Big Foot or the Loch Ness Monster for the same reason. I don't say they do not exist I say I have seen no reason to think they are real. Big difference. — Tom Storm
Zeus does exist — EugeneW
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