Philosophy of sex

Shwah

What's the best sex structure? Are sex revolutions beneficial? What are the sex agents? What different sets of value are developed from it? What crossover does philosophy of sex have with other subjects like politics, economics etc?

A few examples include monarchical sex, which seems to be incestuous and arranged, free (liberal) sex of the 60's, the puritans, who were repulsed at extramarital sex but were rabid in intra-marriage sex (this is still carried on by amish today).

We can create new structures which have different value outputs. One would be to create a class structure by a (revamped) education system where the lowest, only high school education, has basic rights economically and sexually, and doctorates have more economic/sex rights. It puts a top above and promotes education in all classes (I'm firmly of the belief that anyone can become a doctorate). By allowing doctorates to have more children it creates natural incentives for value to necessarily increase (the only axiom here is that good education necessarily increases value in any work or operation anyone gets a hold of).

What are some other structures in history or that may be intuited which may be able to affirm or change the direction of what's politically and culturally happening today?

Shwah

I also wanted to mention that the benefits of monarchical sex may seem less obvious to us now, especially given all the republican (anti monarchical) propaganda, but it's effective at controlling power.

The free sex movement, whether one believes it overshot or not, seems to give value to the populace in general so to negate it would require going into why people accept it and what value they get from it.

The puritan sex is interesting because their population growth is insane and makes them set to take over America in population in 200 years. Clearly value is developed/derived from it even if criticism may be there.

Tobias

What's the best sex structure? Are sex revolutions beneficial? What are the sex agents? What different sets of value are developed from it? What crossover does philosophy of sex have with other subjects like politics, economics etc? — Shwah

I think a philosophy of sex is very interesting and I think the sexuality of philosophy is even more interesting, but the questions you ask are more sociology of sex than philosophy of sex. Interesting too but a different kettle of fish.

I also wanted to mention that the benefits of monarchical sex may seem less obvious to us now, especially given all the republican (anti monarchical) propaganda, but it's effective at controlling power. — Shwah

Oh, but why would this be a philosophical question? Marriage was a tried and tested method of the ruling European houses to consolidated power, yes. That does not say anything about any normative implications.

but were rabid in intra-marriage sex (this is still carried on by amish today). — Shwah

How do you know this?

We can create new structures which have different value outputs. One would be to create a class structure by a (revamped) education system where the lowest, only high school education, has basic rights economically and sexually, and doctorates have more economic/sex rights. — Shwah

Why on earth would we want that? Sure, let's create an unfree under class, great idea. Problem is that it violates basic human rights, but who cares right?

By allowing doctorates to have more children it creates natural incentives for value to necessarily increase (the only axiom here is that good education necessarily increases value in any work or operation anyone gets a hold of). — Shwah

Even if that is true, which it probably is not, the question is why we would all want these doctorates.

It puts a top above and promotes education in all classes (I'm firmly of the belief that anyone can become a doctorate) — Shwah

Your belief does not make it so.

The puritan sex is interesting because their population growth is insane and makes them set to take over America in population in 200 years. Clearly value is developed/derived from it even if criticism may be there. — Shwah

Your whole proposal has nothing to do with a philosophy of sexuality but more with an outlandish and bizarre program of eugenics. It certainly will not get you your cherished doctorate.

Shwah

↪Tobias

I mean sociology of sex falls out of philosophy of sex but, while using different sociological conceptions as case examples, we're using philosophical language in terms of value, structures, benefits, crossover into epistemology (with education) etc. It runs the full gambit. We don't need any sociological conception of sex to exist to examine it which seems to make it definitionally not sociology.

Anyways those were examples to be parsed through and maybe be suggestive of one's own philosophy of sex.

Jamal

I agree with Tobias. If you're interested in the philosophy of sex:

https://iep.utm.edu/sexualit/
https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sex-sexuality/

Tobias

using philosophical language in terms of value, structures, benefits, crossover into epistemology (with education) — Shwah

Using terms that sound philosophical does not make it philosophy. Education is not the same as epistemology. For instance you equate sexuality with begetting children. That assumptions should be examined first. Moreover, your examples are sociological, for instance the question of a possible correlation birth rate and sexual orientation or the historical use of marriage and intrafamilial marriage. What I can make of your proposal comes down to a kind of regulation of sexuality and the question whether that is favorable. However, it makes so many questionable assumptions and flies in the face of our social order that it boils down to an outlandish fantasy. It is most certainly not anything like a philosophy of sexuality. Lastly, know though that your proposal is authoritarian and violates human rights.

Shwah

↪jamalrob

Normative philosophy of sexuality inquires about the value of sexual activity and sexual pleasure and of the various forms they take. Thus the philosophy of sexuality is concerned with the perennial questions of sexual morality and constitutes a large branch of applied ethics. Normative philosophy of sexuality investigates what contribution is made to the good or virtuous life by sexuality, and tries to determine what moral obligations we have to refrain from performing certain sexual acts and what moral permissions we have to engage in others.
Some philosophers of sexuality carry out conceptual analysis and the study of sexual ethics separately. They believe that it is one thing to define a sexual phenomenon (such as rape or adultery) and quite another thing to evaluate it.

From the iep.

This is just meant to start a conversation and gather different manners to speak about philosophy of sex.

Shwah

↪Tobias

These are very normal questions in normative philosophy of sex and was just a few examples to get people in grasp with it. It may have been a little too energizing for some people but the idea was to start a conversation on the topic.

In any case, you would be arguing then that "free" sex of the 60s is "authoritarian" and a "violation of human rights"? Seems a little over-dramatic.

Tobias

In any case, you would be arguing then that "free" sex of the 60s is "authoritarian" and a "violation of human rights"? Seems a little over-dramatic. — Shwah

No, your idea to give PhD's more sexual (and economic) rights is.

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