The simple point is we do not need two threads on the evils of hell at the same time. — Banno
Meh. Take it up with the mods. — Banno
In the world at large.... sometimes. — T Clark
Protection from atheists or other “believers”? The latter is most typical, I think. — praxis
I wouldn’t have pegged you for a Treky or sci-fi fan. — praxis
I agree! However, speaking for myself, I am not "hostile to a whole group of people merely because they are theists". My mother, for instance, is a theist and I'm not "hostile" to her. That goes for my brother, all but one of his children, the rest of my extended family and most of my oldest friends. I am, however, "hostile" to individuals when they are vapid or disingenuous or pompous assholes whether or not they are theists. Most atheists just ignore, even humor, theists without any (unprovoked) "hostility"; they simply take theists to task for the dubious claims which they often make in the name of their god/s, especially on a site like TPF that's dedicated to reasonable discussion and argument.If you openly admit you are hostile to a whole group of people merely because they are theists I think you have issues. — I like sushi
One aspect of the debate on forum quality that might be addressed is the preponderance of low quality thread of a theological bent. — Banno
These threads take scripture or revelation as a starting point for discussion; theology, not philosophy. — Banno
Correct, Philosophy needs to use established epistemology as a starting point not faith based assumptions.hese threads take scripture or revelation as a starting point for discussion; theology, not philosophy. — Banno
God is not a suitable tool for philosophical explanation because god is omnipotent and omniscient. Any question is given a sufficient reply by blaming god. Hence, philosophical discussion stops at god. Of corse, that does not imply that god is the correct answer. — Banno
Hence a good rule of thumb is that philosophers should were possible avoid using god. And generally speaking this rule is followed; it is not common, for example, to explain the differences between machine poetry and human poetry by using god, or the deity as an excuse for racism; and doing so would almost certainly result in a ban for low post quality — Banno
All philosophical explanations should stop before entering any supernatural assumption. — Nickolasgaspar
- That is more of an argument from ignorance fallacy.Whenever evidence and logic indicate the reality of that which is beyond the natural, then the appropriate conclusion is the supernatural. — Metaphysician Undercover
No that does not follow. :roll:↪180 Proof If you in direct opposition to theism then it follows that you are pretty much opposed to theists, right? — I like sushi
I didn’t read any of the titles that Banno listed earlier and now they appear to be ghosted so I can’t make any judgment about fairness. — praxis
Generally, it seems to me that “believers” have ample opportunity to express their “beliefs” on this forum. — praxis
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