Any use of any nuclear device would lose Russia whatever respect it still has on the world stage, this would be the last straw that every nation in the General Assembly will not fail to condemn. — FreeEmotion
..from strategic nuclear weapons.The general public does not differentiate between 'tactical' nuclear weapons or 'low yield' nuclear weapons. — FreeEmotion
North Korea would be more respectable than Russia then. Just changing persons likely isn't enough.President Putin did put in a successor before - Medvedev, so it need not involve high drama. It would be a good tactical move. "Putin did it - he is now powerless, deal with me" — FreeEmotion
I'm not so sure about that. Likely the West would put sanctions on those countries that carry on as if nothing had happened. The big issue is what China would do. So you can end up with basically a divided World and the end of globalization.Every nation will condemn it and then turn around and continue to do business with Russia except for the West. — Benkei
The basic problem is that Putin's Russia sees itself as what either the Russian Empire or the Soviet Union was and it is this that makes it so dangerous — ssu
I think that there's actually many countries that want to keep a distance to the US. Like China and also India. Remember the BRIC countries? Yet Brazil, India or China haven't attacked for some time their neighbors.The 'basic problem' is that Russia is attempting not to be nothing but another vassal-state to a US governed world economic order, and this is a big no-no and cannot be tolerated. — StreetlightX
It hasn't popped out of nowhere., but to think that Russian nationalism is a problem that popped out of nowhere rather than a response to global conditions set almost entirely by the West is a farce. — StreetlightX
Basically Russian history tells us how we got here. While other countries gathered colonies, Russia conquered more territory to be Russia, not colonies of Russia. — ssu
I think that there's actually many countries that want to keep a distance to the US. Like China and also India. Remember the BRIC countries? — ssu
?Yeah, no, this is just straight racism. No thanks. — StreetlightX
We are only fooling ourselves now, actually. Everybody can see how reckless Russia can be.so you think it's a good idea for Finland to join NATO? Or is there any alternative in the world of the possible (including the improbable) that you would prefer? — Benkei
Oh boy!Do you think a referendum on a European army would give different results if we'd have one now? — Benkei
If India was colonized by Great Britain and Kazakh Khanate by Russia, what is racist? It's a fact. The only difference is that other imperialist Great Power continued until the collapse of the Soviet Union. People don't just see the colonialism in Russia. — ssu
Brazil was the case. But of course India is another player too.I don't. Or was this about who got to launch the satellites? India vs US? — Benkei
Ah, I understand your point. I don't like the rhetoric of "Russians will never change" or "Russia will never be democratic" either.[Group of people X] have always been violent. Therefore, this explains why [group of people X] will continue to be violent. "These are just facts". Maybe try to be less racist. — StreetlightX
Usually countries change course dramatically only when everybody can see what a disaster the previous course was. — ssu
When errors are made, they should be pointed out.This I can agree with. Unfortuntely, without any recognition of the role that the West has played in bringing this disaster about - and subsequently affecting change there too - such sentiments are just more White Man's Burden bullshit. — StreetlightX
Yet the agency and agendas of all players ought not be forgotten. Looking at the events from the agenda and objectives of one player, the West or more plainly the US and it's administrations, doesn't give you a correct view. — ssu
It is absolutely legitimate to heap focus on the most destructive and powerful imperial agent on the face of the Earth, especially as a bulwark against those who continue to swallow Western propaganda wholesale while spouting off racist narratives as a matter of casual conversation. — StreetlightX
Looking at the events from the agenda and objectives of one player, the West or more plainly the US and it's administrations, doesn't give you a correct view. — ssu
No NATO membership for Ukraine (said both by NATO and Ukraine). It hasn't been an excuse for a while. — jorndoe
Russia is ramping up military "operations" (convoys, conscriptions, whatever), instead of committing more to diplomacy/negotiations/assurances. — jorndoe
So, the wretched nuclear ☢ (plus perhaps ☣ ⚗) scenario... The threat has been made by Putin and taken seriously enough. I doubt anyone wants to call him out on it, yet how far can the "hostage-taking" be taken? Where's the threshold (if any)? — jorndoe
Every nation will condemn it and then turn around and continue to do business with Russia except for the West.
— Benkei
I'm not so sure about that. Likely the West would put sanctions on those countries that carry on as if nothing had happened. — ssu
The Russian's have to wake up sometime to understand that the empire has gone. Perhaps a disastrous war will help them with this. — ssu
If the use of nuclear weapons is so problematic, one wonders why the USA is still respected. — Benkei
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