What would a valid form of atheism look like? — whollyrolling
How so? I haven't felt any strong emotion about religion or philosophy in quite some time, and I don't see anything unreasonable in asking how valid and invalid atheisms manifest in your opinion, since you mentioned them. — whollyrolling
Some people label their belief system "Atheism" and then proceed to spend a great deal of time thinking and speaking about God--significantly more time than an average Christian. — whollyrolling
I don't see atheism as a belief system, so if something involves a belief system I don't consider it to be atheism. Some people label their belief system "Atheism" and then proceed to spend a great deal of time thinking and speaking about God--significantly more time than an average Christian. — whollyrolling
The real atheists should not call themselves atheists or even engage in god debates. The real atheist just shuts up and lives life. — Hillary
:fire:... sadly theists have never been content to keep their willful delusions to themselves. As long as theists insist on bringing theism with them to courtrooms, institutions and in the actions of elected leaders then an atheist has no choice but to engage. — DingoJones
If only that were true, but sadly theists have never been content to keep their willful delusions to themselves. As long as theists insist on bringing theism with them to courtrooms, institutions and in the actions of elected leaders then an atheist has no choice but to engage. — DingoJones
but sadly theists have never been content to keep their willful delusions to themselves — DingoJones
That's because they have something to share. Atheists, on the other hand, don't. — Hillary
Your admission of guilt is noted, I rest my case. — DingoJones
What do theists have to share? — whollyrolling
Completely untrue. — whollyrolling
"All theists" do not have to "share their belief with others" for theism to dominate cultural traditions and institutions. In the last two millennia in the West, for instance, secularism has been barely (and unevenly) in effect for couple of centuries, and the struggle of inclusive, cultural / scientific literacy and evidence-based thinking against dogmatic Iron Age superstitions and magical thinking continues.One: not all theists share their belief with others. — whollyrolling
Agreed, and I await a sound argument for "the truth of theism".Two: theism can be a rational conclusion.
It is not a non-sequitor, as it follows and relates to what you said about no longer allowing theists to bring their theism into institutions--even while at the same time suggesting that atheists should push their atheism into institutions. — whollyrolling
"Not true" includes false and does not denote 'no truth-value' or 'truth-value undetermined'; thus, "not true" is a truth-value. Specifically with respect to theism, I use "not true" to indicate both false theistic claims and incoherent – not even false – theistic claims/concepts. — 180 Proof
Atheism isn’t a single belief system.
— Joshs
It isn't a system at all. It's singular. — whollyrolling
I must have misunderstood. What would you call yourself?I am not a theist. — whollyrolling
The glorious and liberating feeling of bathing in the soothing shining light of the eternal divine intelligences, who, in their great wisdom and in honest selfishness, have created the cosmos and all life in it, so it can continue their blissful heavenly play. — Hillary
Get involved in philosophical discussions about knowledge, truth, language, consciousness, science, politics, religion, logic and mathematics, art, history, and lots more. No ads, no clutter, and very little agreement — just fascinating conversations.