It can ... If take its battery out or I break it! :grin:The clock can't be stopped. — Hillary
I agree. Well, except that matter can move in all kinds of directions! :smile:There is no configuration of objects that stays the same forever. The global arrangement of matter always moves in one direction. — Hillary
You like his basking in his anti-intellectualism? Right, let’s dumb down all discussions by shutting off reference to those who have articulated the issues most throughly — Joshs
It can ... If take its battery out or I break it! — Alkis Piskas
Time reversal in physics formulae is often touted as an indication that processes might run backwards in time, but I suspect the interchangeability of + or - signs are just mathematical artifacts. — jgill
I agree. Well, except that matter can move in all kinds of directions — Alkis Piskas
Funny ... I have stepped on "Al-Ghazali’s 'The Incoherence of the Philosophers'" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Incoherence_of_the_Philosophers). I have not read the article. It might be fun ... I just put it on my --ever growing-- TOREAD list!It would be called a discussion among continental philosophers, who use close readings of texts to buttress their arguments. Not so much on this site, though. — Joshs
I know. It's only logical that people do that. Yet, what happens, even when you just quote someone, is that one has to know the context in which this quote appears, and to know that one has to read one or more works of the referenced philosophers. And this is quite impossible in a discussion, esp. when many such references appear in it. This happened when I once criticized a Wittgenstein's quote, nbut with arguments and all ... Many then have suggested to me to read his "Tractatus" or even his work, in general. Godssake, man! Just tell me where I am wrong and why. Well, no one did! See what I mean?I quoted those people because I agree with their views and they make a good starting point for discussion — Joshs
No, this is not true at all. As I told you, I just ask you to tell me your personal opinion. You don't need to bring in philosophers or other authotities or experts to support your opinion.So if you don’t care what Bergson, Prigogine or Smolen think about this issue then you don’t care what I think — Joshs
I rarely do so. I don't need to do that. I have to clarify my position --and I usually do that-- myself. If I can't it means that my opinion or explanation is not good or I have not understood the subject. Einstein has said “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” Here, I used a quote myself! :smile: (But only after I have made my point and because I love this quote! :smile:)I would love it if you used quotes to clarify your position. — Joshs
:up: :grin:I have seen a guy in English parliament smashing his writchwatch! Time's up! — Hillary
I rarely do so. I don't need to do that. I have to clarify my position --and I usually do that-- myself. If I can't it means that my opinion or explanation is not good or I have not understood the subject. Einstein has said “If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” Here, I used a quote myself! :smile: (But only after I have made my point and because I love this quote! :smile: — Alkis Piskas
The local exceptions are life and being, all that really matters to us — magritte
Yes. But... Why they don't radiate inwards? Why isn't the beginning of time situated at the end? — EugeneW
As I can see from the time stamps, I also posted that 12 hrs ago ... same time zone ...Its almost three in the night here... — Hillary
Sounds reasonable! I wished I could see it like that. Indeed, when all life has gone, time and space are gone. Only black silence... And then... what's that sound...? Is it a guitar...? What lovely sounds! Aaahh! It Corvus, on the eternal guitar! Great thing not, the guitar! Timeless! :smile:
I wanna buy an electric one. It looks so easy, playing on them. With a headset for the neighbors and going fully fledged in the weekend. On Sunday morning... — Hillary
Or more extreme example, if you were put in the box since your birth up to now, would you know what time it is now? Would you be able to tell how long since you have been in the box? Would you even know what time is? — Corvus
OK, for example, let say not everyone is dead, but let's say that you were put into a box, and buried under the ground with no clocks or watches or phones or anything - you had years of supply of water and food and the air to breath. You are in total darkness and no sounds or lights on your own for a few months. Would your be able to know how much of time has passed when you tried to guess? — Corvus
It's the question we would survive, but I guarantee you that time would move like a snail, and we probably be bored to death. I read that they once put rats in an empty cage from birth. To compare with a rich surrounding. (speaking of torture...). It may come as no surprise their brain, the connections between neurons, and their size, was less. I could have told them that from the start! You would now no clock, of course not. Time, on the other hand... Just throw a guitar in the box and time flies! :smile:
I like the tones of these standing waves (getting lower when you lay your finger closer to the box hole). — Hillary
I would count sheep. 3600 sheep an hour, 72 000 twenty hours, etc. In sleep that's difficult though. But one thing would be sure. It will be later than when I went in! — Hillary
Future is just imagination stemmed from present awareness and memories of the past. — Corvus
When one dies, the whole thing disappears, to nothing and everlasting darkness and silence. — Corvus
Only the living ones keep playing the guitars and hear the sound. The dead ones cannot hear anything, feels nothing and doesn't know what time is. Time is just perception. — Corvus
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