Panta rhei. — Heraclitus
WASHINGTON — Republicans have spent decades attacking the landmark Supreme Court decision that legalized abortion nationwide, but with the toppling of Roe v. Wade seemingly imminent, their leaders in Congress and around the country have grown suddenly quiet on the issue, part of a bid to avoid a backlash against their party ahead of the midterm elections.
Can't wait till the dems do literally nothing about this so they can use the subjection of women as a campaign opportunity. — Streetlight
Republicans will eventually be in the majority, and can then easily strike down that law, not to mention the ACAWith a simple majority vote (50 plus 1 from Kamala), Democrats could change the filibuster that would allow for a legislative codification of Roe v. Wade to pass with another simple majority — Maw
This seems to be the point that needs to be discussed.The personal sphere is private and not a proper object of governmental intrusion.
— Bitter Crank
If the people judge that murder is taking place in private, then it's most definitely a governmental issue. — frank
There is also this celebration of abortion that the left has, as if having an abortion is a badge of honor rather than a tragedy — Harry Hindu
where Laurie Kilmartin said she would "joyfully abort our fetus" — Harry Hindu
This seems to be the point that needs to be discussed. — Harry Hindu
There is also this celebration of abortion that the left has, as if having an abortion is a badge of honor rather than a tragedy. — Harry Hindu
where Laurie Kilmartin said she would "joyfully abort our fetus"
— Harry Hindu
I would kind of prefer this to "a woman has a right to choose."
If you think abortion is moral, go ahead and say it. Normalize it. Otherwise it's like: "abortion is moral for some of us, but not all."
That doesn't make any sense. — frank
Otherwise it's like: "abortion is moral for some of us, but not all." — frank
There is also this celebration of abortion that the left has, as if having an abortion is a badge of honor rather than a tragedy
— Harry Hindu
Where did you see this happening? Just curious, because I haven't. — frank
What we have to agree on is whether behavior is legal and acceptable in a diverse society. — Bitter Crank
The need for the abortion, after all, is typically the result of a mistake, in that they did not want to have a child at this time in their life, but they made choices that led to the pregnancy. — Hanover
For example, my knee hurts because of the two years of kick boxing I did, but I'm not having it scoped because I don't want to. The decision isn't moral or not moral. It's just a matter of choice.
What I would think would be immoral is if you got to decide for me
I'm OK with some people thinking that I, as a homosexual, behave immorally. I'm OK with some people thinking that my beliefs about god are immoral. I'm OK with some people thinking abortion is immoral. — Bitter Crank
What I would think would be immoral is if you got to decide for me — Hanover
The choice isn't actually between engaging in sex or not. It's between having a relationship or not; or between being seen as normal and worthy, or not. — baker
You wouldn't have that freedom of interpretation in every country/culture. Not even when it comes to bum knees.
If anything, people are expected to trust medicine unquestioningly, and if they don't they get regarded as irrational. Refusing a suggested medical treatment could even get one categorized as a negligent patient and one could lose one's medical insurance. — baker
Depends who that "you" is. If it's "society", the legislative body, someone more powerful than you, how can you still say that it's immoral if they decide for you? — baker
My point is that if you believe a certain act is immoral and seek to make it illegal, I need to address your concern one way or another.
Saying that it's a matter of choice does not address your assertion. — frank
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