A). How would we “prove” gods existence if we could only observe it through collective faith? — Benj96
The belief that money has value creates the reality of money. — Hillary
There's more to it than that. If you alone believe that certain pieces of paper are money, then you will never be able to use them as such. What is required is a collective intent to use the paper as money. — Banno
there is a difference with projecting the believe of value in money. — Hillary
When believing in gods there is no projecting of a belief but rather, the believe is projected into us, like the material existence of the moneypaper is projected into us. We don't project the belief in gods like we project the belief of value of money. — Hillary
It's unclear what this means. It sounds a bit like direction of fit, but at the least needs some clarification. — Banno
then money does not exist logically prior to our belief in it. — Banno
That might be but gods are not subject to logic. — Hillary
Of course not. They just exist. No logic required. — Hillary
My reply is, firstly that it's collective intent that brings money into existence, not belief; secondly that any efficacy resulting from such a god would be reducible to that group intent, as for money — Banno
Have you ever studied formal systems? — ArmChairPhilosopher
Every formal system needs a set of axioms which can't be proven within the system. — ArmChairPhilosopher
Suppose that belief or faith had the intrinsic property of manifesting into reality whatever is believed. — Benj96
Impossible — creativesoul
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